Author Topic: 1197c and 1198 New Update 6.570 (Read 23792 times)

sss_floripa · « **on:** December 22, 2012, 09:33:37 AM »

Version 6.570 available for 1197c SI.

Download Update 6.570 (need to register)
http://www.humminbird.com/Support/

File name: 1197.1.6_570_125c9507a64f42b58bc43b8705f4b2f2.bin

Description: New Update v6.570 for 1197c SI
1. Removed Universal Sonar II transducer selection option, now users should select dual beam as their selection.
2. LakeMaster map coding was updated to work with i-PilotLINK
3. Fixed a bug that caused some models to sometimes skip a view when cycling through views.
4. Locked NMEA output at 4800 baud when enabled
5. Added iPilotLINK operation menus and capabilities

Also available update for 1198c (6.570)

Download Update 6.570 (need to register)
http://www.humminbird.com/Support/

File name: 1198cSI.6_570_706d19bbc78541c4bce1ebfd3259a249.bin

Description: New Update v6.570 for 1198c SI
1. Removed Universal Sonar II transducer selection option, now users should select dual beam as their selection.
2. LakeMaster map coding was updated to work with i-PilotLINK
3. Tweaks were made to radar functionality to fix a memory leak
4. Fixed a bug that caused some models to sometimes skip a view when cycling through views.
5. Locked NMEA output at 4800 baud when enabled
6. Added 360 Imaging operation menus and capabilities
7. Added iPilotLINK operation menus and capabilities

Rough House · « **Reply #1 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:48:04 AM »

can someone elaborate on this feature that was taken off??? just a little confused on what this means. Does it mean that you cant pick between 83/200 anymore???
"Removed Universal Sonar II transducer selection option, now users should select dual beam as their selection."

sss_floripa · « **Reply #2 on:** December 22, 2012, 07:22:09 PM »

Another deception

Installed the new version 6.570 in my 1197c...... the speed of the screen SI is faster than DI and 2D.
No synchronization between the images SI x DI/2D.
Tested in DEMO MODE and RECORD FILE (v. 6.310).

In short, I returned to the previous version (6.310) that works fine on my 1197c.

LocDown · « **Reply #3 on:** December 22, 2012, 08:04:10 PM »

@RoughHouse, sounds like they just renamed it to dual beam.

ITGEEK · « **Reply #4 on:** December 26, 2012, 10:29:27 AM »

sss_floripa:
In laymen's terms, exactly what does this mean?
'No synchronization between the images SI x DI/2D.
Tested in DEMO MODE and RECORD FILE (v. 6.310).'

Is the 6.570 update jacked up or what?

I'm currently running 6.310 on my 1197c and it's
never run better.
I'm afraid to do the new update, since I don't use
ipilot anyway.
Has anyone else updated their 1197c with 6.570?,
and give us your take on it, if you can.

Thanks in advance.

sss_floripa · « **Reply #5 on:** December 26, 2012, 12:54:02 PM »

Hello ITGEEK.

1st - installed the new version 6.570 in my 1197c.
2st - after update started in simulator mode (demo).
3st - i observed that the scroll speed of the screen with SI is faster compared to the 2D screen or DI.
4st - no synchronization between images SI / DI / 2D.
5st - i returned to version 6.310.
6st - i performed the same test in simulator mode (demo) and it worked perfectly in version 6.310.
7st - 'm stubborn ..... reinstall the new version in 6.570....tested with a recorded file (. DAT SON /) in September/2012 on my SD card.
8st - i observed that the scroll speed of the screen with SI is faster compared to the 2D screen or DI.
9st - i returned to version 6.310...everything is working perfectly (6.310)

Conclusion: the new 6570 version presented problems in my 1197.

I think the programmers Humminbird already have new work for 2013.

Has anyone else updated their 1197c with 6.570 ?

Thanks to all.

ITGEEK · « **Reply #6 on:** December 26, 2012, 01:35:41 PM »

Sorry sss_floripa:
I'm still very confused.

Are you saying that the SI screen scrolls faster than both the
DI and 2-D screens, and that they are not synchronised
to show the same objects/bottom at the same time?
And, you saw this in real time, and on a recording?

I wonder if Greg knows if Humminbird intentionally made the
SI screen scroll faster for some reason?

Anyone out there have any additional information
on this update (pros or cons)?

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #7 on:** December 26, 2012, 02:53:51 PM »

No mention of it yet to me ITG.
I haven’t even updated my units to the new software yet as I’ve been out of the office and busy doing my ‘normal’ job duties when I’ve been here. Maybe I can get it loaded later this week but will only be able to look at in the simulator mode.

Rough House · « **Reply #8 on:** December 26, 2012, 10:36:01 PM »

very interested in your findings greg. been holding off of the new update since this post hit the forum.

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #9 on:** December 27, 2012, 12:21:17 PM »

Rough House, that was just a name change. With the Ethernet connections now and the ability to share sonar data they are using the type of sonar in the menu versus where it came from to help relieve any confusion.

Rough House · « **Reply #10 on:** December 27, 2012, 01:31:48 PM »

thanks greg.. what about the problems with the views synchronization? any news on that.

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #11 on:** December 27, 2012, 02:04:46 PM »

No. So far I have only seen the one post here about it.

EDIT: Okay, I just loaded it on the 998c Si I have in my office and I can see what you are talking about. Its like they supercharged the Si sonar as it appears to be updating faster than it ever has before. I won;t be able to take a boat ride to check this out on the water though.

Anyone load the 6.570 software yet and got out on the water with it?

TroyBoy30 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:44:09 AM »

How do you return to the previous version? Where do you get the last version?

ITGEEK · « **Reply #13 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:59:35 AM »

You can get the previous downloads here on this site with
the following link:http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?action=downloads

Hey Greg,
Will an 1197c act the same way as an 998c with this update?

TroyBoy30 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 02, 2013, 10:41:08 AM »

Quote from: ITGEEK on January 02, 2013, 09:59:35 AM

You can get the previous downloads here on this site with
the following link:http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?action=downloads

Hey Greg,
Will an 1197c act the same way as an 998c with this update?

thanks. didnt even know that was there

is 6.180 the last version for the 1198? i just updated both of my units but have not had a chance to use them

ITGEEK · « **Reply #15 on:** January 02, 2013, 10:51:13 AM »

I have an 1197c, so I don't know about the 1198c.
If you log into the Humminbird site, it will tell you the latest
update(s) for your unit(s).
If you haven't done so yet, register your unit(s) with them.

TroyBoy30 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2013, 10:58:58 AM »

Quote from: ITGEEK on January 02, 2013, 10:51:13 AM

I have an 1197c, so I don't know about the 1198c.
If you log into the Humminbird site, it will tell you the latest
update(s) for your unit(s).
If you haven't done so yet, register your unit(s) with them.

sorry maybe i worded it wrong. I know what the latest update is, i just applied it. its 6.570

what i meant was what is the version before 6.570? the only one available for download here is 6.180 from march 2012. there had to be something between 6.180 and 6.570 wouldn't you think?

ITGEEK · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2013, 11:07:00 AM »

Yes, you would think so.
You need to wait til Greg chimes in, or
someone else who has an 1198.

TroyBoy30 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2013, 11:28:42 AM »

Quote from: ITGEEK on January 02, 2013, 11:07:00 AM

Yes, you would think so.
You need to wait til Greg chimes in, or
someone else who has an 1198.

thanks

i got the last 2 versions from a BBC member in case i need them

6.490 and 6.420

Rough House · « **Reply #19 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:22:39 PM »

can someone post what the last 3 updates for the 1198 were and what they did. I did a google search but didn't find anything in the way of explaining what they did? Just trying to figure out if im in need of updating from my current version.
Thanks
RH

sonar2000 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 02, 2013, 06:17:26 PM »

Our download is not up to date on the forum. (guess I need to get busy here again) the guys here can list the updates they have downloaded and you can compare..

Chuck

LittleGazoo · « **Reply #21 on:** January 08, 2013, 05:29:20 PM »

Yep 6.57 has problems. Here's one link:

http://www.bbcboards.net/humminbird-sonar-gps/322216-6-570-update-issue.html

Seems HB's 6.570 feature-release screwed the pooch!

sonar2000 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 08, 2013, 05:49:33 PM »

This is why I am a bit slow to update code here on this forum, We prefer it to be tested by the guys here first and then if the results are favorable then we might update the library.
the reason we try to keep backlevels is so when the new code is loaded and it has problems you can get a backlevel. HB is hard to get backlevel code from..
Chuck

roddrsp · « **Reply #23 on:** January 08, 2013, 11:27:59 PM »

Yes, I updated both my 1198 & 998 and the v6.57 left them useless. I was on the water for 10 hours with them. SI was scrolling at a 10 or higher speed even though chart speed was at 3. I cranked the chart speed down to 1 and the si was still screaming. 2d/si/DI were not linked at all. 2d was barely moving on chart speed 3 while DI/si scrolled thru six or seven full screens before 2d cleared one full screen. Also, something was wrong with 2d. I would go over brush piles with bait and fish all over the DI but not showing anything on 2d. And yes I double checked all my 2d settings and recerified multiple times. Thanks to the good folks on here I was able to recover my units by restoring back to v6.49. Al is well now.

LittleGazoo · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2013, 09:06:44 PM »

I reinstalled 6.57 on my 1197cSI and 998cSI.

I did not notice any problems with the 998cSI, but since it's transducer is on my Terrova I did not ever have my speed set faster than 2mph.

Major problem with 6.570 on the 1197cSI console unit. I seemed to detect my transducer as all the 2D, DI and SI sonar screens were displayable. But no sonar data was displayed, just blank screen on all 2D, DI and SI screens. Tested later out of the water when on boat trailer and same blank screens. Also no pinging or ticking sounds from the transducer were heard which might explain why no sonar data being displayed. 6.310 installed and all joy.

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2013, 12:51:45 PM »

LittleGazoo,
You need to contact the Humminbird Customer Resource folks about this.

ITGEEK · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2013, 01:00:06 PM »

LittleGazoo,
Are you sure that your sonar was set to "ON" when
all the sonar screens were blank?

TroyBoy30 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 16, 2013, 06:55:41 AM »

from facebook

Quote

Recently we have released new software (6.57) for the Side Imaging units that incorporate the capability to run the revolutionary 360 and IPILOT LINK technologies. As we released this software we began to hear feedback related to the increased scroll rate on the SI screen. First, thank you for providing us with this type of feedback. Your feedback on this topic is absolutely on target. This wasn't an intentional change. This was something that resulted from the changes that were made to incorporate 360 imaging and should have been corrected. We take our commitment to provide you with excellent/ innovative products very seriously and I want to apologize to you, our valued Humminbird users, for this situation. We are working around the clock to resolve this issue and we will be releasing a new version of software for the Side Imaging models to resolve this issue in the very near future. Please stay tuned for a post to announce the release of the new version of software.

Thank you very much for your support of Humminbird Products.

Mark Gibson, Humminbird Marketing Director

ITGEEK · « **Reply #28 on:** January 16, 2013, 12:29:10 PM »

It shows a lot of class that Humminbird is admitting
to an error.
Hopefully, the fix won't take too long.

I'm holding off on updating my 1197c to the 6.570 update.
I'll let some other people be the guinnea pigs.

Jim Jack · « **Reply #29 on:** January 16, 2013, 03:49:09 PM »

Little Gazoo's issue sounds similar to one I had this weekend with 6.57.

2. I turned off sonar when boat was on the lift, I had traveled about 130 miles to go fishing and wanted GPS to get locked on enhanced fix while out of the water. When I lowered the boat in the water and turned sonar back on via hitting power button and selecting Sonar on it would not start. I reselected sonar off and on a few times with no luck. I finally selected Sonar on and hit exit then shut machine down and restarted and then sonar worked again. This was all frequencies.

TroyBoy30 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 30, 2013, 07:18:04 AM »

6.600 is out and it's still screwed up.

From Wayne on BBC

OK, I just had to take a peak at it, LOL

I give it a failing grade as the processing is still screwed up.

This is what I see.
I have one unit with 6.490 and one unit with 6.600 running beside each other.
With Simulator at the screen scroll speed setting of 5 on both, the swimming pool is the same size on the displays- I paused the screens and measured the pool length. BUT with the 6.600 at the scroll speed of 10 it is just like it was with the 6.570- an Olympic size instead of a private pool size.
To make it even more laughable, at a screen scroll speed of 1, the pool is the size of a kid's pool.

With the 6.490, the pool doesn't change sizes no matter what the scroll speed is and it shouldn't. The screen scroll speed on a recording playback should only affect how fast subjects pass across the display.

Additionally during playback the two sides of SI don't move together. they sort of alternate advancing on the display very obviously.

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #31 on:** January 30, 2013, 10:34:32 AM »

“With Simulator at the screen scroll speed setting of 5 on both, the swimming pool is the same size on the displays- I paused the screens and measured the pool length. BUT with the 6.600 at the scroll speed of 10 it is just like it was with the 6.570- an Olympic size instead of a private pool size.
To make it even more laughable, at a screen scroll speed of 1, the pool is the size of a kid's pool.

With the 6.490, the pool doesn't change sizes no matter what the scroll speed is and it shouldn't. The screen scroll speed on a recording playback should only affect how fast subjects pass across the display.”

I haven’t looked at the 6.600 software yet but do have a question about the above part of the statement that I copied:

Shouldn’t the structure stretch and shrink as you either speed up or slow down the display update speed? It does on 2D sonar, so why would this be any different? I don’t work with sonar recordings but isn’t this the way it has been working?

TroyBoy30 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 30, 2013, 10:39:00 AM »

not on recorded data it shouldnt. why dont you join us on BBC

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #33 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:21:25 AM »

I am a member of that web site TroyBoy. I just have not made it there this morning so far (I have a meeting to prepare for at 11:00 AM). I may make it out there after that as I am mostly stuck in my office on weather watch.

sonar2000 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 30, 2013, 05:56:30 PM »

Right on Greg.....Which is why it makes it hard for SAR targets, unless it is the titanic...
Chuck

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #35 on:** January 31, 2013, 11:08:31 AM »

I don’t understand what your reply means Chuck. Does this mean that you do or do not think that the sonar data should stretch and shrink as you change the Chart Speed menu?

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