Author Topic: Humminbird PC Waypoint Management and v5.840 out for 1197/997 (Read 52154 times)

RGecy · « **on:** September 10, 2011, 01:45:16 AM »

Humminbird has released the long awaited updates for the 1197 and 997 as well as the Waypoint mangement version of Hummibbird PC. Both updates are in the Downloads Section here on the forum.

New Updates 5.840
Description:
8/19/2011 12:00:00 AM - v5.840 Waypoint Management was added tothe GPS/Navigation menus

Humminbird PC
Description:
8/31/2011 12:00:00 AM - v4.1.8 Resolves a variety of minor issues. This program is now using a new Java library and includes updates for Waypoint Management

crappiekiller2 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:40:59 AM »

after I reset defaults I installed the software.
upon reboot I have a warning that says:
all electronic chart data and features, from memory or third party digital
media, are an aid to navigation designed to facilitate the use of authorized
government chart, not to replace them.
This is new, anyone else get this new message?

When I press exit, the screen is in down imaging and black.
The simulation is not running, (unit hooked up in the house)
I do not have all 7 tabs in the menu either, the nav and chart tabs are missing.
In the setup tab under select readouts, I have 3 choices to choose off, depth,
voltage. The only one that can be seen on screen is the voltage.
I have pictures if someone wants to see them.
When I reinstall 5.450 the unit works properly.
I guess I won't be using the new software.

I downloaded from humminbird and this site and have the same problems.

Anyone else have problems like this?

stratofisher · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2011, 12:19:44 PM »

Installed on the 1197 and did not get any abnormal indications from what I could see. The waypoint management may take a little figuring out. My satellite weather still works normal, and the GPS maps came up. Can't tell much more sitting in the driveway. I do have the Nav database version of the 1197 as a reference. Didn't check the menu tabs. Will look next time out.

stillbear · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2011, 04:24:46 PM »

Quote from: crappiekiller2 on September 10, 2011, 08:40:59 AM

after I reset defaults I installed the software.
upon reboot I have a warning that says:
all electronic chart data and features, from memory or third party digital
media, are an aid to navigation designed to facilitate the use of authorized
government chart, not to replace them.
This is new, anyone else get this new message?

When I press exit, the screen is in down imaging and black.
The simulation is not running, (unit hooked up in the house)
I do not have all 7 tabs in the menu either, the nav and chart tabs are missing.
In the setup tab under select readouts, I have 3 choices to choose off, depth,
voltage. The only one that can be seen on screen is the voltage.
I have pictures if someone wants to see them.
When I reinstall 5.450 the unit works properly.
I guess I won't be using the new software.
I downloaded from humminbird and this site and have the same problems.

Anyone else have problems like this?

Crappie Killer 2 with your unit in the house you need to start the unit hit menu while booting up
arrow to normal mode then reset defaults put your card in with updates then reset defaults again when finished
should be good to go . Gary

crappiekiller2 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2011, 04:43:36 PM »

That fixed it. Thanks Gary

ITGEEK · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2011, 05:35:19 PM »

I installed the update on my 1197 and all went well.
I didn't notice any additional messages.
I may get out tomorrow to test it on the water.

bassburner15 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2011, 07:43:22 PM »

I just installed it on my 997 and after it loaded the update I rebooted. Well now I have no GPS, all my SI and DI screens are black and dont have any readouts on the side. So I shut the unit off and went to turn it back on and all it says loading and will not let me do anything els.It just keeps blinking. Now what do I do?

?

stillbear · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2011, 07:49:58 PM »

turn it off or unplug it. then see if it will come back on.The 997 if you have the cables you can use jollys bootstrap method
to fix it if you do not have the cables or have anyone close that does you will need to ship it to HB support. Sorry Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:09:19 PM »

Crap! What is this going to cost? I'm sure my 997 is out of warranty.

stillbear · « **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:18:39 PM »

Put out a distress call for your area someone can or should be able to help you
you will need to bootstrap it the cable depends on your pc you will need to
Connect the unit to your PC using the ASPC2 cable (and the USB/ Serial adapter if you don't have a serial port at your PC). You have to use the NMEA com port on the rear side of your unit
I would be glad to help you if you where closer. Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:24:21 PM »

I don't think I have anyone in my area. What do you think it will cost if I send it in?

stillbear · « **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:37:51 PM »

I am not sure but if you talk real sweet to one of the HB customer support girls an get a RA
number put it in a box however you ship they will pay the same coming back an send a nice note
with the 997 an it probably won't be much. Them HB people are real good people to do business
with. PS do not send it back in the box it came with because they will ship it back in a different
box.Hope this helps Gary

stillbear · « **Reply #12 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:44:15 PM »

Quote from: bassburner15 on September 10, 2011, 08:24:21 PM

I don't think I have anyone in my area. What do you think it will cost if I send it in?

Bass burner has your pc got a serial port on the rear of the tower?
ON our forum we have search feature click on it type bootstrap read on jolly roger artical
if you think you are up to it you can use my cable to bootstrap your 997.OR just send it to HB and they will fix it. Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:45:43 PM »

Ok thanks. I'll call Monday morning.

stillbear · « **Reply #14 on:** September 10, 2011, 08:48:58 PM »

Bass burner has your pc got a serial port on the rear of the tower?
ON our forum we have search feature click on it type bootstrap read on jolly roger artical
if you think you are up to it you can use my cable to bootstrap your 997.OR just send it to HB and they will fix it. Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 10, 2011, 09:05:28 PM »

I'm not sure if my lap top does. That would be a lot better.

RGecy · « **Reply #16 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:35:42 PM »

Bassburner,

If you cant sweet talk the girls with Humminbird, just let me know.

At the very worst you can send it to me and I will take care of it for you. I am down in Beaufort, and standard UPS is 1 day here and 1 day back.

Take a look at the member map, there are several forum members up in your area and they may have the ASPC2 cable. Getting your unit back using the bootstrap mode is pretty easy. Just follow the directions.

http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=661.0

Good Luck and let me know if I can help.

Thanks,

Robert

bassburner15 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2011, 07:08:57 AM »

Quote from: RGecy on September 10, 2011, 10:35:42 PM

Bassburner,

If you cant sweet talk the girls with Humminbird, just let me know. At the very worst you can send it to me and I will take care of it for you. I am down in Beaufort, and standard UPS is 1 day here and 1 day back.

Take a look at the member map, there are several forum members up in your area and they may have the ASPC2 cable. Getting your unit back using the bootstrap mode is pretty easy. Just follow the directions.

http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=661.0

Good Luck and let me know if I can help.

Thanks,

Robert

Thanks! I'm not sure what all that bootstrap thing is your talking about is but, is that all what Humminbird is going to do? If they are going to do the same thing can't I just send it to you. That will be way faster. =) It is hard to live with out my 997. Of coarse I would take care of you.

stillbear · « **Reply #18 on:** September 11, 2011, 07:46:51 AM »

Like Robt. said the bootstrap is fairly simple producure if you have the cable to hook it up
you have 12 members or more real close to where you live. I would call them or take Robt.
up on his offer.The new units out now you cannot use the bootstrap to bring them back
to life you aft to send them back to HB. Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 11, 2011, 07:53:30 AM »

I'm hoping Robert will do it for me. Humminbird gets busy and may take a few weeks. i'm wanting to have it back for a tourney next week. At some point I'll get the cables and the software.

Thanks Stillbear for your help!

stillbear · « **Reply #20 on:** September 11, 2011, 08:49:38 AM »

Bass burner goggle AS PC 2 that is HB PC connection kit. Do not use the battery an cable for power they send get a 12 volt
power supply from anywhere or a good ac dc adapter 750 Ma. or larger will work the 997. The battery cable you get with the kit
cut the battery holder off an hook your power supply up then you can use it to power up any HB head unit.I have a
Radio shack 12 volt 3.8 amp power supply with a 3 amp built in fuse on my PC station I do all my updates an friends
updates in my house with nothing else hooked up to the unit. Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:47:58 PM »

Quote from: stillbear on September 11, 2011, 08:49:38 AM

Bass burner goggle AS PC 2 that is HB PC connection kit. Do not use the battery an cable for power they send get a 12 volt
power supply from anywhere or a good ac dc adapter 750 Ma. or larger will work the 997. The battery cable you get with the kit
cut the battery holder off an hook your power supply up then you can use it to power up any HB head unit.I have a
Radio shack 12 volt 3.8 amp power supply with a 3 amp built in fuse on my PC station I do all my updates an friends
updates in my house with nothing else hooked up to the unit. Gary

Ok I just downloaded the PC software. I'm going to try to tackle this myself. I'll need some help from you though. I will buy the HB connection kit. Do you have a link to where I can get a good power supply? I would like to get it all ordered tonight.

bassburner15 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:58:33 PM »

Would this all work?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cart/view.html/ref=gno_cart

RGecy · « **Reply #23 on:** September 11, 2011, 09:32:16 PM »

Cant see it! Its a link to your amazon cart, but it just pulls up my account. Link to each individual item for us.

Robert

Drifter · « **Reply #24 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:12:48 AM »

From www.amazon.com ...

Humminbird AS PC2 Personal Computer Serial Connection Cable (picture does not show the 8-AA battery housing) ...
http://www.amazon.com/Humminbird-Personal-Computer-Serial-Connection/dp/B000F6RXLS

USB to Serial Converter
http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Serial-Converter-TU-S9-Blue/dp/B0007T27H8

From store.humminbird.com ...

AS PC2 PC Connection Kit
http://store.humminbird.com/products/323024/AS_PC2

AS USB Serial to USB Adapter
http://store.humminbird.com/products/322963?product_id=96fa76bcee28b0b115aef6178e0c65c9

bassburner15 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:23:22 AM »

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VE7GQQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AGUKLEMUEMS9

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F6RXLS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G62FMY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m=A1729W3053T57N

stillbear · « **Reply #26 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:07:40 PM »

Yes the power adapter you posted will work fine. don't get the serial adapter with usb
get the personal pc kit you have listed. Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:09:33 PM »

Wont I need that adaptor to use with my lap top?

stillbear · « **Reply #28 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:22:51 PM »

Yes you will if you don't have a serial port connector on the pc you are going to use
My pc has a serial port.

Trytoofish · « **Reply #29 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:59:39 PM »

I just updated my 997. it appears that the side/down colors have issues. the start up screen is now black,even after restore defaults. and the amber colors are gone with black in there place. I sure hope this is not yet another soft update with issues.

crappiekiller2 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:13:47 PM »

Quote from: Trytoofish on September 12, 2011, 04:59:39 PM

I just updated my 997. it appears that the side/down colors have issues. the start up screen is now black,even after restore defaults. and the amber colors are gone with black in there place. I sure hope this is not yet another soft update with issues.

read the 4th message in this thread. that should fix it for you.

Trytoofish · « **Reply #31 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:36:42 PM »

Quote from: crappiekiller2 on September 12, 2011, 05:13:47 PM

read the 4th message in this thread. that should fix it for you.

thanks for pointing out the post. I had already read it. and restoring defaults changed nothing.

crappiekiller2 · « **Reply #32 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:42:20 PM »

Did you install it in house or on your boat?
If you have it in house, as you power it up press menu. If its in normal mode you won't have any colors. You can change it to sim and get the screen back to normal.

crappiekiller2 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:47:20 PM »

Quote from: Trytoofish on September 12, 2011, 05:36:42 PM

thanks for pointing out the post. I had already read it. and restoring defaults changed nothing.

Quote

with your unit in the house you need to start the unit hit menu while booting up
arrow to normal mode then reset defaults put your card in with updates then reset defaults again when finished
should be good to go .

Trytoofish · « **Reply #34 on:** September 12, 2011, 07:54:35 PM »

It was done in the boat. and it was done as stated. and reverting back to 5.450 does not fix the problem. I would not advise this update at this time. I will be calling CS .

bassburner15 · « **Reply #35 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:25:26 PM »

When I did my update I had a problem with having a black SI and DI screen. I turned the unit off and when I turned it back on all it said was loading.I'm in the process of getting it taken care of. I have never had any issues with any other updates from Humminbird. Sometimes you just get a bad one. I could tell you horror stories of Lowrance updates I have ran into. Scare to death to update my HDS's. I have fried too many HDS units. This is the first problem ever with my 997. I wouldn't be scared to do it again.

stillbear · « **Reply #36 on:** September 13, 2011, 06:50:25 AM »

Quote from: Trytoofish on September 12, 2011, 07:54:35 PM

It was done in the boat. and it was done as stated. and reverting back to 5.450 does not fix the problem. I would not advise this update at this time. I will be calling CS .

Trytofish when you updated your 997 when it was done did it say updated sucessfully ? Gary

Trytoofish · « **Reply #37 on:** September 13, 2011, 07:34:15 AM »

Quote from: stillbear on September 13, 2011, 06:50:25 AM

Trytofish when you updated your 997 when it was done did it say updated sucessfully ? Gary

yes it did.

stillbear · « **Reply #38 on:** September 13, 2011, 08:12:36 AM »

Quote from: Trytoofish on September 12, 2011, 07:54:35 PM

It was done in the boat. and it was done as stated. and reverting back to 5.450 does not fix the problem. I would not advise this update at this time. I will be calling CS .

Trytofish I am trying to understand what happened to your update.You would think if there was something wrong
with the update that it would affect all the units that install it obviously that is not the case here. I know when updating a
head unit and not- restoring defaults or have - low voltage - connection issues - interlink or Eiternet connections can and
will do strange things.I would like to know what HB CS says or doe's to fix your issue. Gary

Trytoofish · « **Reply #39 on:** September 13, 2011, 08:22:24 AM »

Gary
no voltage issues boat is in the garage with the 3 bank charger plugged in. and was on the water working fine over the weekend. what confuses me is reverting back to past update did not restore it to where it was before current update. I will keep you posted. I have several bird units and have been doing updates for years. first real issue for me.
Interlink was/is connected. I will try disconnecting it.

Trytoofish · « **Reply #40 on:** September 13, 2011, 09:21:01 AM »

Please disregard my concerns. I have been defeated by a switch. My 997 is on the console and shares a transducer on the bow. the ts-2 was in the wrong position. all seems to be working well now. too many gadgets too little time.

bassburner15 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 13, 2011, 09:35:18 AM »

That's great you found the problem. I'm glad it was not the update.

bassburner15 · « **Reply #42 on:** September 22, 2011, 01:33:21 PM »

Having a problem Bootstrap. After I power up the unit on my PC and go to #9 programming and hit view to start it will say programming.After it's done it says failed. When I go to my Humminbird PC update is not high lighted.

Humminbird_Greg · « **Reply #43 on:** September 22, 2011, 02:09:44 PM »

Are you suing HumminbirdPC to try and reprogram your unit bassburner15?
Try using an SD card and the bootstrap method (select #9 Programming) and see if that works. If not, she may e too far gone and you will have to send the unit in. At this point it sometimes means a memory chip replacement.

RGecy · « **Reply #44 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:14:07 PM »

He was using Windows Vista and the Humminbird USB/Serial adapter. Aparently the software that comes with the USB Serial adapter is not Vista compatible. Support emailed him some files to run that fixed it.

He go the update installed, but now he does not have GPS.

Robert

bassburner15 · « **Reply #45 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:32:07 PM »

My GPS worked for a few mins. but than that's all it worked for. Did that last time to.

Some how some way with all the great support on here we will get it squared away.

bassburner15 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:26:29 AM »

Hmmmm. You know what? To come to think of it,I remember right before I did the update on the lake I lost my GPS and readouts a few times.I had to power on and off a few times to get them back. It happened once in a while.I'm starting to think maybe a bad GPS connection in the cable? On the back of my 997c witch port is the GPS port. I have the GR50. Is there a connector or is does it run right to the puck.I did not install it so I'm not sure.If I know what port it is I can pull that wire a follow it back.

stillbear · « **Reply #47 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:43:32 AM »

unplug the cable collector on the back of you 997 the third plug from the left is the one but there should be
a pig tail take all the connections apart and clean them up . Gary

bassburner15 · « **Reply #48 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:04:35 AM »

Ok. Thanks. What the best thing to clean the connections with?

stillbear · « **Reply #49 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:15:33 AM »

I use a commercial spray contact cleaner.Make sure you clean the pigtail connections there app. 12-18 inches down the line.
any parts house has spray cleaner. Gary

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