Topic: Question about using two Humminbird units

[erocks4u]

   What would be the best way to set up an 1198csi in the front council location and a 998csi in the bow location?
I have the 998 sitting at the council with the GPS puck and two transducers (SI and regular 2d) hooked to it using an AS-Si-DB-Y cable. I would like to move the 998 to the bow and get an 1198 for the council.

Is it possible to have the 998 in the bow connected to minn kota trolling motor with ipilot and built in 2d, and also have the ability to grab GPS info and side imaging using a network cable from the 1198?

Or what methods would you use to make the best use of these two units?

SaskRiverRat

[LocDown]

Best bet would to be install a SI trolling motor transducer to the minnkota and leave the SI, 2d, and Y cable as is. Next, have your console GPS puck as close to the transom transducer as possible and the other GPS puck as close to the trolling motor as possible to keep the distance error down to a minimum when marking waypoints from whatever screen you're using. You can connect both units together with an ethernet cable and share most data except map cards. If you share GPS from the back to the front then you would have that distance then +/- a minimum of 6ft of error.

[Humminbird_Greg]

Best bet would to be install a SI trolling motor transducer to the minnkota and leave the SI, 2d, and Y cable as is. Next, have your console GPS puck as close to the transom transducer as possible and the other GPS puck as close to the trolling motor as possible to keep the distance error down to a minimum when marking waypoints from whatever screen you're using. You can connect both units together with an ethernet cable and share most data except map cards. If you share GPS from the back to the front then you would have that distance then +/- a minimum of 6ft of error.

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[erocks4u]

I agree that would be the best way, but then how do i use the Ipilot? do you actually hook the SI transducer through the head unit of the minn kota?

thanks for you input
p.s I should mention that the Trolling motor is a Power drive v2

SaskRiverRat

[Humminbird_Greg]

The iPilot is controlled by the wireless fob I believe.  Is this an iPilot or the new iPilot Link?

The HDSi transducer would not get hooked through the head unit of the Minn Kota; it will get mounted on it and connected to the bow mounted 998 unit.

[RuffWood]

I am doing the exact same thing. The 998 I have at the console now and is hooked up with the SI transducer mounted on the jack plate and the 2D transducer hooked up using the AS-SIDB-Y cable. The new 1198 will be at the console and the 998 moved to the bow. From what I can tell, all cables and transducers that come with each unit are the same. So is it safe to say I can just plug in the 1198 at the console with existing wiring and use all the new wiring that comes with the 1198 to hook up the 998 at the bow?

[Humminbird_Greg]

Yes you can RuffWood.
The unit mounting bracket and the Connector Collector parts (the parts that hold the cable connectors to the unit) are different but that is it.
Depending on when the 1198c Si unit was packaged it may have the newer GRP GPS Receiver but it should work the same as the GR50 that came with the 998c Si unit.

[RuffWood]

Thanks, Greg!

[erocks4u]

The iPilot is controlled by the wireless fob I believe.  Is this an iPilot or the new iPilot Link?

The HDSi transducer would not get hooked through the head unit of the Minn Kota; it will get mounted on it and connected to the bow mounted 998 unit.

It is the IPilot but may upgrade to the I Pilot Link within the year, I'm guessing if i do upgrade to the link i would have to use the AS-Si-DB-Y cable up front also.
It would be nice if Johnson outdoors would make an SI transducer that you could use to switch out the US2 and have a clean install look, not fond of the SI transducer cable running on the outside of the shaft.

[Humminbird_Greg]

If you put an HDSi transducer on the trolling motor you would not need the AS-Si-DB-Y cable.  The transducer has the 2D sonar built into it.

I don’t know if you remember the size of the HDSi transducer… but they won’t fit in the same size hole as the US2 transducer does.  Minn Kota would have to redesign the whole motor housing to accept one of these transducers which would make it pretty big! 

[erocks4u]

Thanks Greg,

I've just read the Ipilot link gets its contour info from the Humminbird using Lakemaster maps via Ethernet cable. so it looks like Ipilot link is out, as no maps from LakeMaster for Canada.

[reddog]

I suggest you take a good look at running the 1198 on the bow and leave the 9 at the console. I say this because of the viewing distance from each unit. On the console, the unit will be for the most part right in your face, and easily viewable. On the bow, your distance from the screen  will be greater, and you will be able to utilize the larger screen.  At least try it to begin with. If you decide to change it, all you need to do is change the mount and cable connector, which you will need to do anyway.   

Regarding the cable for the transducer and the TM shaft, it's a very simple procedure to insert the cable into the slot of the Terrova. It takes about 45 minutes.

[reddog]

Take a look at pics 110-118 here for how to rig the cable thru a Terrova..

http://imageevent.com/okoboji_images/hummingbirdsideimaging?n=0&z=2&c=4&x=0&m=24&w=0&p=0

With that said, I wish MinnKota would form a semi round slot in the Terrova shaft that the Humminbird transducer cable would just friction fit into, with having top deal with securing it to the shaft slot.  But, even in the shaft slot, its 100% better than flopping around outside the shaft.

[Humminbird_Greg]

Thanks Greg,

I've just read the Ipilot link gets its contour info from the Humminbird using Lakemaster maps via Ethernet cable. so it looks like Ipilot link is out, as no maps from LakeMaster for Canada.

All of the features of the i-Pilot Link, with the exception of the 'follow the contours' feature, will still work if you do not have one of the i-Pilot LakeMaster mapping cards.