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Title: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 16, 2011, 01:01:51 PM
Just received an email from HB Select saying there is a 5.7 update available....stated:

The NEW Waypoint Management System that allows for waypoint groups, along with the ability to hide, show and sort waypoints.

Adjusted the sonar code to improve shallow water performance under trolling motor noise conditions.
Adjusted the sensitivity for down imaging. 
Changed the default side imaging color palette to amber.
Fixed speed/temp and voltage data box when no transducer is connected.
Added a side imaging simulator.


I am wondering if I should update, everything is fine now, and I DONT want the update to mess with my Ethernet, I havent received an email on my 1198......

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: NickO on July 16, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
edward,
I just installed the 5.70 updater this afternoon on my 898c. The install went smooth, as expected. BUT some of the changes that were listed DO NOT appear. Namely the waypoint editing addition. Installed the update after fishing this morning. so will not be back on the water for a few days, not that it should make any difference.

I'd hold off a few days. I'm not the only one not seeing the waypoint management addition. I'm sure it wll work itself out after the weekend.

Nick O
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Kenosha on July 17, 2011, 08:38:23 AM
898c si

I updated to 5.7 and  not  seeing the waypoint management addition.
 The unit is out of the boat with no transducer or GPS connected.
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Ddorriety on July 17, 2011, 06:42:25 PM
You may want to check if a new HumminbirdPC available.It may be needed for the grouping functions.
You may also want to check if any new sort functions exist. I hope it will offer the ability to select the
HWD file you would like to load. I checked it is not there for my unit.
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Kees Michielsen on July 18, 2011, 03:43:00 AM
Same here, just updated and no waypoint management. Have the boat in the garage. Connected it and nothing new happens (no GPS signal in the garage) Further I think that the unit does not keep the preferences, I need to set them every time I restart the unit?

Kees
Holland
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: tennwalkinghorse on July 18, 2011, 10:46:35 AM
Loaded 5.7 and same here don't see the changes . May be its me but can not find (Adjust sonar to improve shallow water performance under trolling motor noise conditions). Thinking it would be under set-up file any body experiencing the same . Hope I did not screw my unit up by updating it was working fine .
Mike
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 18, 2011, 10:54:36 AM
Im going to hold off on any updates...I figure if it aint broke!!...I finally have everything set the way i want and the 1198 and 898 are working fine...ill wait and see if any that have updated have issues....
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: raricker on July 18, 2011, 11:43:01 AM
Hi Greg,
I think I caught up with you this morning. I'm assuming your reading this thread as I write. I left a reply on Yahoo Groups and a post on BassBoatCentral saying that 5.700 release for 998c DOES NOT WORK for the Waypoint Management Feature. Could you pass that on to the Engineering Dept. As a side bar I saw that the file size for 5.700 is within a couple hundred "K" of 5.500. One would guess that Waypoint Management addition would be at least several Meg. larger. Could 5.700 just be a bad build/release??? Just a thought.

Roger
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on July 18, 2011, 03:43:48 PM
Hmmm, it looks like something did not go right on our end.  :-[
I loaded up a 989c Si unit and could not find the waypoint management software either.  I’ve made a few calls and will have to wait and see what comes back to me on this… looks like we are waiting for the waypoint management software again…  >:(
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: stratofisher on July 18, 2011, 11:21:29 PM
When should I expect an e-mail for the 5.7 on my 1197.  Still shows 5.5 as all that is availble?  Did they pull the software today?
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Ddorriety on July 19, 2011, 06:24:35 AM
Below is a a quote from Doug Vahrenberg.
Quote
Just got some news from Hummibird:

Got the official word on this: the waypoint management software was not included in the 5.700 software release. Someone must have gotten over-anxious and jumped the gun on this. Sorry folks but we will have to wait a while longer for the waypoint management software… If you are having problems tracking the bottom in shallow water when the trolling motor is running your should download and install the 5.700 software though.

Looks like we will have to wait just a little bit longer...I'm wanting to run this new feature but I would rather wait so it comes out right...been a huge project to get the right tool the first time. Sorry for the mis-information I recieved.
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: tennwalkinghorse on July 19, 2011, 10:47:06 AM
Below is a a quote from Doug Vahrenberg.

Is the shallow water bottom track an adjustment if so where is it or is this done automatically. Looked as thou it was some kind of feature you would be able to adjust. Any thoughts  ???
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on July 19, 2011, 02:33:01 PM
When should I expect an e-mail for the 5.7 on my 1197.  Still shows 5.5 as all that is availble?  Did they pull the software today?

stratofisher,
I don’t know when the 1197 or any other model will get the 5.700 software update.
What are you meaning by “did they pull the software today”?

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on July 19, 2011, 02:33:43 PM
Is the shallow water bottom track an adjustment if so where is it or is this done automatically. Looked as thou it was some kind of feature you would be able to adjust. Any thoughts  ???

tennwalkinghorse,
I am assuming that this is a change in the depth algorithm and not a new menu.

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: tennwalkinghorse on July 20, 2011, 01:22:55 AM
Thanks Greg
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Kees Michielsen on July 21, 2011, 01:58:53 AM
Just received a email from Huminbird:
==================
You were recently sent an email which contained information about software version 5.700 for your 998.  It was communicated that a featured called Waypoint Management was part of this release.  Unfortunately this information was incorrect.

Currently we do not know the exact date that this feature will be released but we will certainly notify you when it does become available.  In the meantime, we hope you benefit from the other changes that were made in this release.
 
Our apologizies for this miscommunication.

Regards,

Your Humminbird Select Service Team

==========

Still waiting for the waypoint manager... ;D
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: 6speedy3 on July 21, 2011, 09:41:30 AM
I received the same email as Delta, last night. I still haven't upgraded my 998, gonna hold off awhile.
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 22, 2011, 08:26:53 AM
I definately have decided NOT to update my 898c.....everything works fine now and dont need any bugs or changes...I hope they dont mess with the software on my unit, it is at HB right now getting the power switch fixed....I dont think they would just update software without asking, but who knows....
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on July 22, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
Big E,
Standard practice is to load the current software version into the units when they come into the Service Department.  So your 898c Si should come back with the 5.700 software in it.

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 22, 2011, 12:14:51 PM
Greg, I sure hope not, dont really need the new update right now.....Shouldnt they ask first?...Finally got all my settings and Ethernet the way I want it....If they upgraded to the 5.7 that means I have to go and re-do all my preferences I had set....dang man....lol
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on July 22, 2011, 12:18:07 PM
Big E,
To be able to run through and pass the unit test that we have, the unit has to be running the latest software.  That keeps us from shipping out a new unit that has old software in it.  Since the units that come into our Service Center have to be run through the same test than the software should have to be updated as well.  I also think that the same test resets the menu settings as well (the waypoints should still be there though).

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 22, 2011, 12:23:51 PM
Ahhh....got it Greg...Thanks....Not a huge deal, just have to go through all my prefernces....Wont affect my Ethernet will it seeing how the 1198 is still runnin 5.5?

Any way of checking the progress? next day aired it to them Monday
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on July 22, 2011, 12:33:09 PM
I can check on it for you.  Send me an e-mail with your name, address and the model and serial number (or just an order/Customer tracking number if you have it).
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 22, 2011, 12:38:56 PM
Thanks a ton, just emailed you the info i had....Appreciate all your help....
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: DitchPickler on July 24, 2011, 07:50:06 PM
i just installed the new update and i love the simulator mode. I'm able to really tune in my settings when my boats out of the water. Only thing i dont like is my options for my preset buttons. for instance,  preset one was set to Switch fire/Down Imaging and if i clicked exit it would just remove the the left half of the screen and i would see Down Imaging @ full screen.

Now when i click exit it just scrolls to the next screen option....not sure why its different....

overall i like the update. -DP
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: calli1 on July 25, 2011, 09:08:31 AM
What exactly does the new 5.7 software update have on it ?
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: stillbear on July 25, 2011, 10:01:10 AM
Here you go  Description:

7/8/2011 12:00:00 AM - v5.700 - Adjusted the sonar code to improve shallow water performance under trolling motor noise conditions Adjusted the sensitivity for down imaging. Changed the default side imaging color palette to amber Fixed speed/temp and voltage data box when no transducer is connected Added a side imaging simulator
Gary
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: calli1 on July 25, 2011, 10:12:22 AM
Is this update for the 1198 units or are we still with the 5.7   I know I have not received a notice from Humminbird or Humminbird Select about a update for my 1198.  Thanks
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: ITGEEK on July 27, 2011, 03:04:15 PM
I've been checking every day on the HB website and the 5.7 is not
yet available for my 1197.
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 28, 2011, 08:32:55 AM
My 898 will be back from HB service today, had a new power button installed...Greg said they updated the unit to the new software so I'll see how she works when I use it next...Hope all goes good I had her dialed in before sending out for service....

Thanks Greg for all your help with checking on the unit!!!
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on July 28, 2011, 10:18:51 AM
EDW....check the unit out in basic mode and then start making setting changes.  Let us know how all this ends up..
Chuck
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 28, 2011, 10:55:41 AM
Chuck....i will definately do that...Just came in today Fedex so when I get home ill hook her up n mess with it...I also finally wired my DSC to the 1198's GPS but forgot to turn on NEMA output on the 1198 so not sure if that works yet....Having the unit turn off without rocking the switch to find the sweet spot will be nice
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on July 28, 2011, 02:14:49 PM
OK, we will keep our fingers crossed that all will be well and you will soon be the sonar expert... ;D
Chuck
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: ITGEEK on July 28, 2011, 02:16:51 PM
All will be well until the next update.
Then we'll have something else to talk about.
 :)
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on July 28, 2011, 03:05:19 PM
No doubt, ITG....No doubt..... ;D
Chuck
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 28, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
<----Will never be the sonar expert

 but I gotta tell ya....I see some incredible stuff on the reef Ive been fishin...I havent tried snapshots yet, not familiar with that or Himminbird PC, only used the PC part once so far....Now if ya could take snapshots without creating waypoints that would be cool....
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on July 29, 2011, 12:28:35 PM
So far with messing with my 898 after it came back from power button service through HB, My networking works fine (thank god) and I really dont see a difference, that or I just dont use r have been through what the changes are....I'll know more I guess when Im out on the water using it...I did change the SI color back to blue...The new default is Amber....
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: ITGEEK on July 30, 2011, 05:33:30 PM
Still waiting for the 5.7 update for my 1197.
Until then, it's useless to make sonar recordings.
Takes 1 hour to review a 30 second recording and it looks like cr@p.

Humminbird where are you?
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on August 02, 2011, 08:39:49 AM
Try and be patient ITGEEK.  They are working their way through the different units.

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on August 02, 2011, 01:02:14 PM
ITG.....let me look...I think I have a 5.7 on our 1197.  Now where did I get it??
Chuck
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: ITGEEK on August 02, 2011, 01:10:39 PM
Chuck,
If you have the 5.7 update for an 1197, then something is terribly wrong somewhere. :)

Good things come to those who wait, so yes Greg, I am waiting patiently.
I'm hoping this 5.7 update will be the bomb and help me catch some big fish.
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on August 02, 2011, 01:18:46 PM
OK>I am gong down to the office and check the version...I may be confused and under the heat advisory and not remembering well.. OK Roddy dont say anything about age.... >:D
Chuck
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: ITGEEK on August 02, 2011, 01:30:08 PM
Chuck,
If you have the 5.7 update for your 1197, then either one of the following statements are true:
  1) I'm the abominable snowman
  2) You're a Humminbird very preferred customer

 :)
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on August 02, 2011, 01:34:51 PM
#1 is most likey because I am certainly not #2.
OK...checked the 1197 and it is 5.5......
I can only say here that.....
1)...it is the heat
2)...it is age
or most likely'
3)....too many darn units. and frm several mfgers...
Chuck
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on August 04, 2011, 10:15:24 AM
or…
4) one too many falls off a ladder.  :o
 ;D ;D ;D


I see that the 5.700 software was released for the 1198c Si units ITG…  They are getting closer!

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: ITGEEK on August 04, 2011, 10:26:11 AM
That's great Greg.
Thanks for the info.

I'm checking every hour. :)
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: edwardpic on August 04, 2011, 10:29:59 AM
Guess i should update the 1198c as well.....My 898 has the latest might as well follow suite......No issues so far with the 898, other then changing all my settings back.....I'll log on to HB later n download it

What does the 5.7 do for the 1198? Same as the 898?
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on August 04, 2011, 10:58:01 AM
Greg, I fell on my butt so should have not hurt my brain.  wait a minute maybe it is brain damage.... ;D.. :-\.. >:D....Chuck
Anyway......I would try to keep the versions as close to each other as possible.  Other than connecting ether net which requires the compatable code....
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Humminbird_Greg on August 04, 2011, 12:02:34 PM
Big E,
The 5.700 should do the same for every unit that gets it (Side Imaging units will not get the side imaging stuff).

As long as both units have at least version 5.410 of higher (does not have to be the same exact software version in both units) there should not be any Ethernet connection issues.

Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Rüdiger on August 06, 2011, 04:20:47 AM
Yesterday i have update my 898 unit
I think, it's works now better in shallow water.

mvh
Rüdiger
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on August 06, 2011, 11:35:23 AM
MVH....Do you or can you p[ost an old level vs the new level for comparison...Great that it works....
Chuyck
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: Rüdiger on August 06, 2011, 01:56:18 PM
Hey Chuck

The different betwen the old and the new vision is not so strong, may be it's only the new color amber.

mvh
Rüdiger
Title: Re: New 5.7 update
Post by: sonar2000 on August 07, 2011, 10:34:13 AM
OK, thanks.  we are always interested in pictures...Yes I think the color of amber was new...Thanks, Chuck
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