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Side Imaging Forums => Onix and Ion Series => Topic started by: danlaboucane on March 07, 2017, 01:43:59 PM
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hello guys new here and reading all i can about onix and 360 and imaging since getting my first large unit: onix 8 ci ct to mainly use with a 360 that i will get later on. someone wrote that onix +360 have some special ways working together and am curius about that ! and just saw that i could get si/di using sm200-3000 ? is that right ? with apropriate ducer ! are up to 800 possible ?i may use the onix at console too when trolling until i get another big unit when $$ allows .great forum here and will enjoy learning all i can ! thanks guys
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1. ONIX + 360 specifically can do 360 and SI/DI (from the stock SI xducer) at the same time if the SI is set to 800kHz (360 is 455kHz and adding 455kHz Imaging will crosstalk) ...
(Note: core units automatically shut off SI/DI from the stock SI xducer when the 360 is selected) ...
2. SM2000 does 2d digital, and SI/DI analog ...
3. SM3000 does 2d digital CHIRP, and SI/DI analog ...
4. SM3000 and 1 of the higher wattage xducers would be advantageous for deeper 2d depths ...
You should contact Humminbird for specifics on which xducer for your desired results (if you decide to use SM2000 or SM3000) ...
Here is contact info for international ...
http://www.johnsonoutdoors.com/Main.aspx?id=127 (http://www.johnsonoutdoors.com/Main.aspx?id=127)
Rickie
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ok ,what is si/di analog ? since my unit is not si i am trying to figure out if the expense is worth it to add sm2000-3000+ducer,i am not really fishing deep exept for jigging and trolling lakers and max 350ft in lakes i fish. and with time adding another unit ? onix 10 or helix 10 mega or??? i will see after learning about the onix i have now.
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ok maybe i was not clear ! sorry.
two different questions ,
1: does SM2000 or SM3000+SI/DI transducer makes a non SI/DI onix a full 455-800 SI/DI unit?
2:if i understand:with non SI onix i can use 360 with SI/DI from a SI/DI transducer at the same time ?
sorry just trying to understand a lot of info to use all this tech without buying accessories i don't need.
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Question 1:
The HB website shows only the SM3000 as compatible with the ONIXci (sonar non-SI ONIX) ...
http://www.humminbird.com/Products/ONIX10ci-Combo/ (http://www.humminbird.com/Products/ONIX10ci-Combo/)
I would "assume" this adds SI/DI to an ONIX NON-SI unit ... You should definitely call HB to find out for sure. (None of us here at sideimagingsoft.com work for HB and their website is vague on the SM modules)
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Question 2:
It is possible to run 360 at the same time as SI from the SI xducer only on ONIX (not HELIX nor numbered series - these models disable the SI xducer when 360 is active - ONIX has a manual shutoff for the SI xducer) ...
455kHz SI/DI will crosstalk with 360 because 360 is 455kHz ...
800kHz SI/DI from the SI xducer and 360 should work at the same time (on ONIX) ...
Rickie
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thanks rickie
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thanks rickie
Please post info that HB gives you so that we can log that info here to refer back to ...
BTW... I know of only 1 user here using SM3000 (Nitro78) ... and he's using ION not ONIX ...
ION is a completely different animal ...
Rickie
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received fast response from hummingbird that said :YES YOU GET SI FROM SM3000 IF PLUGGED IN SI TRANSDUCER with non SI onix unit! just have to find cheap SM-3000 , $1300 +$454 for transducer in canada now !but won't give up !
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What is your reason for going with a SM3000 instead of an SM2000?
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no reason,still avenT found one at a good price, should do the same si/di without chirp ! hummingbird answered about the sm-3000 no reply for the sm-2000 probably because it is discontinued,depending on what i find if i even find one
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Didn't realize they discontinued that SM2000 ...... seemed like a good option to me but I guess not very many were being used.
There's a heck of a deal on the SM3000 over here .... https://www.universalmania.com/products/humminbird-sm3000-sonar-modules (https://www.universalmania.com/products/humminbird-sm3000-sonar-modules)
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thanks for the link but most us stores are at that price and closer to me in quebec a dealer sells it for can$1300 even better then getting it from the us but still alot just to get si/di and need a can$455 ducer ! if i use the onix 8 on bow 360 like the plan may not really need SI on that unit,later might get an si unitfor the console,as money allows !!
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Sorry but Nitro 78 didn't have a ION.
He have a ONIX 10' CP tactil with Box SM3000 (2D, down, side et module chirp hautes et basses fréquences ) with transducer Side et Transducer Airmar chirp 2 x 1 kw.
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thanks terrible ,i did find his posts ,i looked at all posts about onix's .
merci bien.
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Just an update on some info that I posted earlier in this thread about ONIX being capable of displaying 360 and imaging at the same time ...
The new 3.000 software just released for ONIX has removed this feature ... Imaging is now automatically disabled completely when 360 is active ...
Rickie
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Sorry but Nitro 78 didn't have a ION.
He have a ONIX 10' CP tactil with Box SM3000 (2D, down, side et module chirp hautes et basses fréquences ) with transducer Side et Transducer Airmar chirp 2 x 1 kw.
Thanks for the info ... I could have swore nitro had ION ...
Rickie
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ok too bad, you mean all units linked i guess ?
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Just an update on some info that I posted earlier in this thread about ONIX being capable of displaying 360 and imaging at the same time ...
The new 3.000 software just released for ONIX has removed this feature ... Imaging is now automatically disabled completely when 360 is active ...
Rickie
And now an update on my above update ...
It has been discovered on another forum that there is now a selection "Menu" to disable or not to disable Imaging when 360 is active ...
(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rnvinc/HB/6B42735B-6469-49BC-BFAA-7831C78A881B_zpsli0evciv.jpg) (http://s477.photobucket.com/user/rnvinc/media/HB/6B42735B-6469-49BC-BFAA-7831C78A881B_zpsli0evciv.jpg.html)
Rickie
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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received fast response from hummingbird that said :YES YOU GET SI FROM SM3000 IF PLUGGED IN SI TRANSDUCER with non SI onix unit! just have to find cheap SM-3000 , $1300 +$454 for transducer in canada now !but won't give up !
Hi, I use an ONIX10' , Ihavn't ION!
Yet I sell it with SM3000+2 side tranducers and TM265 chirp Tranducer (excellent!). I go for SOLIX 12' I stay with Humminbird for wreck hunting