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Title: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 07, 2012, 05:32:31 AM
Hello!
I bigan the construction off my first  home made towfish for my 798SI humminbird
you can see the construction on my web site
http://comarche.freeheberg.com/ (http://comarche.freeheberg.com/)
I will finish it the next week
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: sonar2000 on March 07, 2012, 06:14:15 AM
Alex,can you post several pictures on this forum...You can put them in the towfish section...
This would be nice...

You click on the media tab at the top and then click on towfish construction tab..

Chuck
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: Rüdiger on March 07, 2012, 11:18:13 AM
Hi Alex

I've looked at the link, unfortunately my French is not good enough :-\ to be able to read everything. Especially your capped transducer would interest me. Would be good if you could post the pictures and some text here in this forum.

mvh
Rüdiger
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 07, 2012, 03:31:02 PM
Hi
Somes pictures from my towfish construction, i finish mounting the transducter and the nylon cable this eving.
Tomorow i will bigan the construction of the  Humminbird case to have mobil scan
(http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche/images/dsc00264-1.jpg)
I have put new pictures on my site
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: Rickard on March 07, 2012, 04:57:10 PM
Alex, welcome to the towfish builders' gang!
I think your fish will work very well. I must ask about the dissected transducer, what model is that? I'm curious because I hope someone will dissect an XHS 9 HDSI 180 T and report the dimensions of the SI piezos. Why did you cut a transducer in half?
I look forward to hear about the results of your testings!
 
Kind regards,
Rickard
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: Roddy on March 07, 2012, 11:28:59 PM
Alex,Welcome to the gang!
Fish looks like it will work well. Please post pix ofof the system win it is completed.

Bon chance and dont hit the bottom!  Roddy
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: Sea-Rover on March 08, 2012, 08:15:22 AM
Hi Alex,

which is nice if you experiment with your Towfish, some will not go, the better for another. but it can also be a fiasko, try on and look at the forum. everyone has put his ideas and the main thing is that if it works.
long, perfect or easily and cheaply, the image on the sonar unit is important.
in this sense ....
regards
sea-rover
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 08, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
Alex, welcome to the towfish builders' gang!
I think your fish will work very well. I must ask about the dissected transducer, what model is that? I'm curious because I hope someone will dissect an XHS 9 HDSI 180 T and report the dimensions of the SI piezos. Why did you cut a transducer in half?
I look forward to hear about the results of your testings!
 
Kind regards,
Rickard

It is an HUMMINBIRD TROLLING TRANSDUCER XTM 9 HDSI 180 T 710205 It is a humminbird maintenance dealer who give me it  , I just cut it like that (http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche/images/dsc00246-1.jpg) because some body said me that it was empty inside, so salt water could come in with the increase pressure with deep, but the problem is the base cable, the water came in by it in the cable, so i put epoxy as it show on the pictures(http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche/images/dsc00252-1.jpg) (http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche/images/dsc00253-1.jpg) THE TRANSDUCTER that i use was buy on Ebay us  for 200$
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: Rickard on March 08, 2012, 10:25:15 AM
Alex,
Thanks, then I know why you cut it. It's true the cables are not designed to withstand pressure so water can leak inside the cable and eventually cause corrosion inside the transducer or at least on the copper wires and the aluminum sheild.
So, it is a XTM 9 HDSI 180 T, excellent! Do you still have it? I would appreciate if you could measure the height and width of the SI elements. I want to compare them to the SI elements in the XTM (or XHS) 9 SI 160 T (262 & 455 kHz). This would be a test of my theory: the elements are the same in both transducer models, but they are oriented differently.
Kind regards
Rickard
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 08, 2012, 05:58:23 PM

Hi thé XTM 9 SI 160 T work with thé 981c si and the 987c si only the XTM HDSI 180T work with every ne HDSI or SI so i will see soon  if it work or not ::)
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: Roddy on March 08, 2012, 11:18:36 PM
Rickard, I will X-RAY a 160 and a 180 today and post PIX with numbers. Roddy
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 09, 2012, 02:13:55 AM
It 's cool ;D
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: Rickard on March 09, 2012, 02:48:22 AM
Excellent Roddy! I know the cross section of the SI elements in the 160 is 6.00 x 4.65 mm. Do you think you ca see the corresponding measures in the 180? The elements are wrapped in cork and copper foil so it may be difficult to see the piezo inside with X-ray, or is it possible? Anyway, X-rays from both models in similar conditions will be very valuable! We have Abra's x-rays from an 180 and my dissected 160s (http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=363.0 (http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=363.0)), but no direct comparison between them.
Rickard
 
The image shows my theory. Black is the orientation of piezos in the 160 (262 & 455 kHz) and red shows the orientation of the same piezos in the 180 (455 & 800 kHz).
Alex, I haven't forgotten this is your thread and if you think this detour on piezo dimensions is off the subject I can move it somewhere else?
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: abraquelebout on March 09, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
 :) hi alex
enfin un collègue français
bienvenue sur le forum
poste des images dès que tu en auras
ps: si tu veux me contacter
tu aura mon mail en consultant ma fiche
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: sonar2000 on March 09, 2012, 05:40:31 PM
Which in English kind of means..

Finally a French colleague
Welcome to the forum
post pictures as soon as you will have
PS: If you want to contact me
You will have my mail by visiting my fact sheet

Chuck
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 10, 2012, 03:28:10 PM
Which in English kind of means..

Finally a French colleague
Welcome to the forum
post pictures as soon as you will have
PS: If you want to contact me
You will have my mail by visiting my fact sheet

Chuck
HI
I see you at rennes, it that make me build a hommade towfish ;), we also have a magnetometer ;D
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: abraquelebout on March 11, 2012, 04:53:42 AM
hi alex, i remember you at rennes
it's nice.
i see your weeb site and i think i go to  take participation in your forum.
you make 45 m extented cable, what's  is the depht you want to go scanning ?
now in salt water i use a 65 m cable and 6,5 kg towfish
there's no problem for 30 m but if i want to go on more dpht in salt water i must make it so heavy
or take a longer cable
i think making a 85 m extension cable as i do in the begining for my future towfish.
post some pix, all the "towfish gang" are waiting.
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 14, 2012, 03:06:26 PM
the control case(http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche/images/img_20120313_201143.jpg) :D
Now i am ready to try it !!! ;D
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 17, 2012, 05:28:00 AM
the plan http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche/images/towfish.pdf (http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche/images/towfish.pdf) in pdf file


http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche (http://ns8.freeheberg.com/~comarche)
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: depark1 on March 17, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
That is an awsome plan.  It is the first one that I have seen that shows every step in the construction of a Towfish.  Very well done!  Thanks for sharing.   ;D
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: sonar2000 on March 17, 2012, 04:43:28 PM
Alex you might want to put that in the articles and tutorials..

Chuck
Title: Re: My home made Towfish
Post by: alex on March 30, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
Himi try ait todday and ait seem work well, but i have a lit le problème with the rec fonction on the 798 si  ???, thconsol doesn't want to go on rec fonction thé image will cam soone
 :-\
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