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Offline Whistler

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Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« on: August 13, 2015, 05:13:24 PM »
When you share sonar between 2 units via Ethernet, does the unit that is accessing the sonar data from another unit disable its own sonar?  Or does it continue to ping?


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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 08:22:32 PM »
It must disable its own. That's why there is no crosstalk. Bob

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 12:13:54 AM »
OK, but what's the point of sharing if both units have their own xducer?

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2015, 09:30:08 AM »
The fisherman in the back can watch the back sonar while you are up front without getting interference from having both on.(called crosstalk) Also with the xxx9 units you can have 2 different units and share si sonar with non si units. Si with a Di unit for instance, giving you the capabilities on either. Plus of course the Waypoint sharing along with temperature and such. With imaging units you can even split the transducers and use just Si or Di on the other or just use the others 2d part of the transducer. For the price of 1 cable it is a great feature. Bob

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2015, 05:31:55 PM »
Thanks.  I just ordered an 899ci HD SI.  Could I share it's imagery with an old HB 565 dual scan 2d only unit?

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2015, 05:48:47 PM »
I am not familiar with the model but I doubt it is Ethernet compatible. Bob

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2015, 06:20:45 PM »
Thanks.  I just ordered an 899ci HD SI.  Could I share it's imagery with an old HB 565 dual scan 2d only unit?

I'm afraid not thinkinfish ...

Like Bob mentions ...the 500 series are not Ethernet compatible ...

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2015, 06:47:36 PM »
Thanks guys.  I finally found the specs and of course you are both right.

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2015, 10:46:05 AM »
The reason I started this thread was to determine if anyone knows for sure whether or not a unit, that is using shared sonar from another unit, turns its own sonar off.  I want to know this because I'm considering installing a third unit for down imaging only.  But I already have a in hull transducer connected to my 1199 and I don't want cross talk from a second sonar signal on the dedicated DI unit and my 1199. 

I'm aware of the TS3 sonar switch options like the one Brent Ehrler has, but that doesn't seem like a clean solution.  If an 858 DI or similar Ethernet DI unit can get its sonar signal over an Ethernet network from my 1199 in hull transducer while disabling its own 2d sonar that would be ideal...of course, this may also disable the DI crystal on the dedicated DI unit as well. 

Has anyone tried this?  Does anyone know if it works?

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2015, 01:54:03 AM »
Is the 1199 connected to the in hull xducer with the AS SIDB Y cable ...??

You mention possibly installing a 3rd unit as a 859 DI ...what is the 2nd unit ...??

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2015, 09:50:46 AM »
I have an 1198 at the bow and an 1199 with the AS SIDB Y cable at the console.  Currently the 1198 and 1199 are connected via Ethernet.  Not really relevant to the discussion but I also have my yamaha connected tot the Ethernet network for NMEA 2000 info.


I'm trying to determine if it would be possible to use something like the 859 DI at my console so that I could have a dedicated down imaging unit.  If I were to do this without going with a transducer switch I know the sonar signal from my 1199 and the proposed 859 would create cross talk.  What I want to know is...If I were to share the 1199 sonar signal with the 859 via Ethernet, would that disable the sonar signal from the 859 DI transducer.  Because if it does not, then I would still have cross talk.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2015, 05:59:37 PM by Whistler »

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2015, 07:47:55 PM »
If you do get crosstalk, it is easy to temporarily stop the pining on one of the units .... just press the power button quickly and the option will be there.

Ethernet sonar sharing is a little more tricky between an xx9 series unit and an xx8 series unit.......There is a sharing chart on on Humminbirds website that would be the PDF file here .... http://www.humminbird.com/Search/?q=sonar%20sharing
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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2015, 08:26:42 AM »
Humminbird Greg - Can you answer my original question?  is the local sonar pulse disabled with a unit's sonar source comes from another system via Ethernet sharing?

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2015, 01:34:26 PM »
I am pretty sure the local pulse isn't disabled when sharing sonar from another unit....but not 100% sure.

Greg has been a real busy guy lately and has not been on here much ..... If you want a timely answer from Humminbird you'd be better off giving them a call or email.....I have had pretty good success getting these kind of questions answered via email and not have to wait on the phone...I'm not good at waiting.
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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2015, 01:50:19 PM »
I suspect you are correct was jut hoping to get confirmation from anyone else who may have tried this.  It would make for a really clean down imaging option if shared sonar did disable the local sonar pings.  Not sure why I didn't think of this before now, but I'm just going to connect both of my units and share the soar from one and see if the other disables its local sonar ping.  I'll report back my findings in case any one else wants to know.

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2015, 09:29:21 PM »
It does not automatically disable its transducer.  You have to disable it. 

My 360 sonar will also generate and receive crosstalk, however pinging on it can be controlled from either unit because it is connected directly into the network hub.


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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2015, 08:11:08 AM »
That is interesting.  I actually tested this with my 1199 and 1198 and what I observed seems to contradict what you saw Ronquest. 

In my scenario I shared my 1199 2D sonar with my 1198.  As soon as I configured the 1198 to receive its sonar signal from the 1199 the audible 2D sonar clicks of the 1198 stopped.  I would expect that to mean that 1198 sonar pings were disabled at that point.

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Re: Sharing Sonar via Ethernet
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2015, 05:26:41 PM »
I think both situations exist, depending on how you access the available transducers..
I just tried to duplicate what I've been seeing and check to see if the base unit turns off it's TD when accessing the networked TD.

When I change the TD selection in "Network Source Setup" under the "2D" tab my base TD will turn off when I select a networked TD.   Now switching back to the base TD does not turn off the networked TD.

From startup with both TDs on, when I push the view button and scroll through the views it does not turn off the base TD while viewing the networked TD.  DI/SI and base unit TD are both still on.  Looking at your setup this is what you have, correct?

I can't turn on or off a networked TD from another unit.  The 360 can be turned on and off from networked units.

What I was running into most was not being able to shut off the networked TD from the bow and having to go back to the console to shut it off.

I'll mess with it more tonight while I'm fishing. 

Thanks Whistler for making me dive deeper into this setup!





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