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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: RGecy on September 10, 2011, 01:45:16 AM
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Humminbird has released the long awaited updates for the 1197 and 997 as well as the Waypoint mangement version of Hummibbird PC. Both updates are in the Downloads Section (http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?action=downloads) here on the forum.
New Updates 5.840
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8/19/2011 12:00:00 AM - v5.840 Waypoint Management was added tothe GPS/Navigation menus
Humminbird PC
Description:
8/31/2011 12:00:00 AM - v4.1.8 Resolves a variety of minor issues. This program is now using a new Java library and includes updates for Waypoint Management
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after I reset defaults I installed the software.
upon reboot I have a warning that says:
all electronic chart data and features, from memory or third party digital
media, are an aid to navigation designed to facilitate the use of authorized
government chart, not to replace them.
This is new, anyone else get this new message?
When I press exit, the screen is in down imaging and black.
The simulation is not running, (unit hooked up in the house)
I do not have all 7 tabs in the menu either, the nav and chart tabs are missing.
In the setup tab under select readouts, I have 3 choices to choose off, depth,
voltage. The only one that can be seen on screen is the voltage.
I have pictures if someone wants to see them.
When I reinstall 5.450 the unit works properly.
I guess I won't be using the new software. :(
I downloaded from humminbird and this site and have the same problems.
Anyone else have problems like this?
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Installed on the 1197 and did not get any abnormal indications from what I could see. The waypoint management may take a little figuring out. My satellite weather still works normal, and the GPS maps came up. Can't tell much more sitting in the driveway. I do have the Nav database version of the 1197 as a reference. Didn't check the menu tabs. Will look next time out.
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after I reset defaults I installed the software.
upon reboot I have a warning that says:
all electronic chart data and features, from memory or third party digital
media, are an aid to navigation designed to facilitate the use of authorized
government chart, not to replace them.
This is new, anyone else get this new message?
When I press exit, the screen is in down imaging and black.
The simulation is not running, (unit hooked up in the house)
I do not have all 7 tabs in the menu either, the nav and chart tabs are missing.
In the setup tab under select readouts, I have 3 choices to choose off, depth,
voltage. The only one that can be seen on screen is the voltage.
I have pictures if someone wants to see them.
When I reinstall 5.450 the unit works properly.
I guess I won't be using the new software. :(
I downloaded from humminbird and this site and have the same problems.
Anyone else have problems like this?
Crappie Killer 2 with your unit in the house you need to start the unit hit menu while booting up
arrow to normal mode then reset defaults put your card in with updates then reset defaults again when finished
should be good to go . Gary
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That fixed it. Thanks Gary
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I installed the update on my 1197 and all went well.
I didn't notice any additional messages.
I may get out tomorrow to test it on the water.
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I just installed it on my 997 and after it loaded the update I rebooted. Well now I have no GPS, all my SI and DI screens are black and dont have any readouts on the side. So I shut the unit off and went to turn it back on and all it says loading and will not let me do anything els.It just keeps blinking. Now what do I do???????????
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turn it off or unplug it. then see if it will come back on.The 997 if you have the cables you can use jollys bootstrap method
to fix it if you do not have the cables or have anyone close that does you will need to ship it to HB support. Sorry Gary
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Crap! What is this going to cost? I'm sure my 997 is out of warranty.
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Put out a distress call for your area someone can or should be able to help you
you will need to bootstrap it the cable depends on your pc you will need to
Connect the unit to your PC using the ASPC2 cable (and the USB/ Serial adapter if you don't have a serial port at your PC). You have to use the NMEA com port on the rear side of your unit
I would be glad to help you if you where closer. Gary
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I don't think I have anyone in my area. What do you think it will cost if I send it in?
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I am not sure but if you talk real sweet to one of the HB customer support girls an get a RA
number put it in a box however you ship they will pay the same coming back an send a nice note
with the 997 an it probably won't be much. Them HB people are real good people to do business
with. PS do not send it back in the box it came with because they will ship it back in a different
box.Hope this helps Gary
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I don't think I have anyone in my area. What do you think it will cost if I send it in?
Bass burner has your pc got a serial port on the rear of the tower?
ON our forum we have search feature click on it type bootstrap read on jolly roger artical
if you think you are up to it you can use my cable to bootstrap your 997.OR just send it to HB and they will fix it. Gary
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Ok thanks. I'll call Monday morning.
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Bass burner has your pc got a serial port on the rear of the tower?
ON our forum we have search feature click on it type bootstrap read on jolly roger artical
if you think you are up to it you can use my cable to bootstrap your 997.OR just send it to HB and they will fix it. Gary
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I'm not sure if my lap top does. That would be a lot better.
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Bassburner,
If you cant sweet talk the girls with Humminbird, just let me know. ;) At the very worst you can send it to me and I will take care of it for you. I am down in Beaufort, and standard UPS is 1 day here and 1 day back.
Take a look at the member map (http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?action=googlemap), there are several forum members up in your area and they may have the ASPC2 cable. Getting your unit back using the bootstrap mode is pretty easy. Just follow the directions.
http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=661.0 (http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=661.0)
Good Luck and let me know if I can help.
Thanks,
Robert
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Bassburner,
If you cant sweet talk the girls with Humminbird, just let me know. ;) At the very worst you can send it to me and I will take care of it for you. I am down in Beaufort, and standard UPS is 1 day here and 1 day back.
Take a look at the member map ([url]http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?action=googlemap[/url]), there are several forum members up in your area and they may have the ASPC2 cable. Getting your unit back using the bootstrap mode is pretty easy. Just follow the directions.
[url]http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=661.0[/url] ([url]http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=661.0[/url])
Good Luck and let me know if I can help.
Thanks,
Robert
Thanks! I'm not sure what all that bootstrap thing is your talking about is but, is that all what Humminbird is going to do? If they are going to do the same thing can't I just send it to you. That will be way faster. =) It is hard to live with out my 997. Of coarse I would take care of you.
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Like Robt. said the bootstrap is fairly simple producure if you have the cable to hook it up
you have 12 members or more real close to where you live. I would call them or take Robt.
up on his offer.The new units out now you cannot use the bootstrap to bring them back
to life you aft to send them back to HB. Gary
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I'm hoping Robert will do it for me. Humminbird gets busy and may take a few weeks. i'm wanting to have it back for a tourney next week. At some point I'll get the cables and the software.
Thanks Stillbear for your help!
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Bass burner goggle AS PC 2 that is HB PC connection kit. Do not use the battery an cable for power they send get a 12 volt
power supply from anywhere or a good ac dc adapter 750 Ma. or larger will work the 997. The battery cable you get with the kit
cut the battery holder off an hook your power supply up then you can use it to power up any HB head unit.I have a
Radio shack 12 volt 3.8 amp power supply with a 3 amp built in fuse on my PC station I do all my updates an friends
updates in my house with nothing else hooked up to the unit. Gary
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Bass burner goggle AS PC 2 that is HB PC connection kit. Do not use the battery an cable for power they send get a 12 volt
power supply from anywhere or a good ac dc adapter 750 Ma. or larger will work the 997. The battery cable you get with the kit
cut the battery holder off an hook your power supply up then you can use it to power up any HB head unit.I have a
Radio shack 12 volt 3.8 amp power supply with a 3 amp built in fuse on my PC station I do all my updates an friends
updates in my house with nothing else hooked up to the unit. Gary
Ok I just downloaded the PC software. I'm going to try to tackle this myself. I'll need some help from you though. I will buy the HB connection kit. Do you have a link to where I can get a good power supply? I would like to get it all ordered tonight.
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Would this all work?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cart/view.html/ref=gno_cart (http://www.amazon.com/gp/cart/view.html/ref=gno_cart)
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Cant see it! Its a link to your amazon cart, but it just pulls up my account. Link to each individual item for us.
Robert
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From www.amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com) ...
Humminbird AS PC2 Personal Computer Serial Connection Cable (picture does not show the 8-AA battery housing) ...
http://www.amazon.com/Humminbird-Personal-Computer-Serial-Connection/dp/B000F6RXLS (http://www.amazon.com/Humminbird-Personal-Computer-Serial-Connection/dp/B000F6RXLS)
USB to Serial Converter
http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Serial-Converter-TU-S9-Blue/dp/B0007T27H8 (http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Serial-Converter-TU-S9-Blue/dp/B0007T27H8)
From store.humminbird.com ...
AS PC2 PC Connection Kit
http://store.humminbird.com/products/323024/AS_PC2 (http://store.humminbird.com/products/323024/AS_PC2)
AS USB Serial to USB Adapter
http://store.humminbird.com/products/322963?product_id=96fa76bcee28b0b115aef6178e0c65c9 (http://store.humminbird.com/products/322963?product_id=96fa76bcee28b0b115aef6178e0c65c9)
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VE7GQQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AGUKLEMUEMS9 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VE7GQQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AGUKLEMUEMS9)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F6RXLS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F6RXLS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G62FMY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m=A1729W3053T57N (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G62FMY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m=A1729W3053T57N)
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Yes the power adapter you posted will work fine. don't get the serial adapter with usb
get the personal pc kit you have listed. Gary
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Wont I need that adaptor to use with my lap top?
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Yes you will if you don't have a serial port connector on the pc you are going to use
My pc has a serial port.
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I just updated my 997. it appears that the side/down colors have issues. the start up screen is now black,even after restore defaults. and the amber colors are gone with black in there place. I sure hope this is not yet another soft update with issues. :'( :'(
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I just updated my 997. it appears that the side/down colors have issues. the start up screen is now black,even after restore defaults. and the amber colors are gone with black in there place. I sure hope this is not yet another soft update with issues. :'( :'(
read the 4th message in this thread. that should fix it for you.
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read the 4th message in this thread. that should fix it for you.
thanks for pointing out the post. I had already read it. and restoring defaults changed nothing.
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Did you install it in house or on your boat?
If you have it in house, as you power it up press menu. If its in normal mode you won't have any colors. You can change it to sim and get the screen back to normal.
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thanks for pointing out the post. I had already read it. and restoring defaults changed nothing.
with your unit in the house you need to start the unit hit menu while booting up
arrow to normal mode then reset defaults put your card in with updates then reset defaults again when finished
should be good to go .
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It was done in the boat. and it was done as stated. and reverting back to 5.450 does not fix the problem. I would not advise this update at this time. I will be calling CS .
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When I did my update I had a problem with having a black SI and DI screen. I turned the unit off and when I turned it back on all it said was loading.I'm in the process of getting it taken care of. I have never had any issues with any other updates from Humminbird. Sometimes you just get a bad one. I could tell you horror stories of Lowrance updates I have ran into. Scare to death to update my HDS's. I have fried too many HDS units. This is the first problem ever with my 997. I wouldn't be scared to do it again.
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It was done in the boat. and it was done as stated. and reverting back to 5.450 does not fix the problem. I would not advise this update at this time. I will be calling CS .
Trytofish when you updated your 997 when it was done did it say updated sucessfully ? Gary
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Trytofish when you updated your 997 when it was done did it say updated sucessfully ? Gary
yes it did.
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It was done in the boat. and it was done as stated. and reverting back to 5.450 does not fix the problem. I would not advise this update at this time. I will be calling CS .
Trytofish I am trying to understand what happened to your update.You would think if there was something wrong
with the update that it would affect all the units that install it obviously that is not the case here. I know when updating a
head unit and not- restoring defaults or have - low voltage - connection issues - interlink or Eiternet connections can and
will do strange things.I would like to know what HB CS says or doe's to fix your issue. Gary
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Gary
no voltage issues boat is in the garage with the 3 bank charger plugged in. and was on the water working fine over the weekend. what confuses me is reverting back to past update did not restore it to where it was before current update. I will keep you posted. I have several bird units and have been doing updates for years. first real issue for me.
Interlink was/is connected. I will try disconnecting it.
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Please disregard my concerns. I have been defeated by a switch. My 997 is on the console and shares a transducer on the bow. the ts-2 was in the wrong position. all seems to be working well now. too many gadgets too little time.
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That's great you found the problem. I'm glad it was not the update. :)
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Having a problem Bootstrap. After I power up the unit on my PC and go to #9 programming and hit view to start it will say programming.After it's done it says failed. When I go to my Humminbird PC update is not high lighted.
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Are you suing HumminbirdPC to try and reprogram your unit bassburner15?
Try using an SD card and the bootstrap method (select #9 Programming) and see if that works. If not, she may e too far gone and you will have to send the unit in. At this point it sometimes means a memory chip replacement.
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He was using Windows Vista and the Humminbird USB/Serial adapter. Aparently the software that comes with the USB Serial adapter is not Vista compatible. Support emailed him some files to run that fixed it.
He go the update installed, but now he does not have GPS.
Robert
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My GPS worked for a few mins. but than that's all it worked for. Did that last time to. :'( Some how some way with all the great support on here we will get it squared away.
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Hmmmm. You know what? To come to think of it,I remember right before I did the update on the lake I lost my GPS and readouts a few times.I had to power on and off a few times to get them back. It happened once in a while.I'm starting to think maybe a bad GPS connection in the cable? On the back of my 997c witch port is the GPS port. I have the GR50. Is there a connector or is does it run right to the puck.I did not install it so I'm not sure.If I know what port it is I can pull that wire a follow it back.
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unplug the cable collector on the back of you 997 the third plug from the left is the one but there should be
a pig tail take all the connections apart and clean them up . Gary
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Ok. Thanks. What the best thing to clean the connections with?
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I use a commercial spray contact cleaner.Make sure you clean the pigtail connections there app. 12-18 inches down the line.
any parts house has spray cleaner. Gary
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It's hard to tell but it looks like 2 of the little ports on the pig tail from my unit that connects into the wire to the puck looks like 2 of the holes are a little wider than the other 2. I might just order a new wire.Can you just buy that 18" pig tail that pluds into the unit?
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I ordered an AS YC cable from Humminbird. I figured that if there is any connection problem some where I can try to eliminate with a new cable. man, those Humminbird sales reps are sooo nice! Well I hope this will solve any more problems I'll have.
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All the HB people are nice. Gary
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For some reason my GPS worked in my driveway.Turned the unit on and off many times and it worked.Got to the lake and turned the power on and it worked great. It worked fine. Than after about 5 hours I turned the unit of to see if it will come back on. After I powered my unit back up I lost GPS for the rest of the day. ???
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Have you got another antenna to switch to or a friend near by just switch the wires or another head you can try
with your present antenna.You need to figure out if it is your 1=Head 2=Antenna 3=Connections 4=Wiring.
Thanks Gary
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I have a new Y cable coming so I'm going to try that first. If that don't work I'm just going to send it in.
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If you used your unit for 5 hours on the water,
then it quit on you, it may be a battery issue.
The voltage in your battery may have dropped
to less than 10.5 volts.
I would recommend charging up your battery
then load testing it.
It doesn't matter if your battery is new or
you know it's good.
A load test will quickly tell if it can sustain
a load and still keep adequate voltage.
Good Luck.
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It didn't turn off by itself though. After I turned the unit off and than back on again to check it is when I couldn't get my GPS back.
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The only other thing I would suggest is to
make sure all of your battery and unit connections
are good and tight.
Also, it might take more battery voltage to start up
your unit, than to keep it running.
Your battery may be borderline.
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I charged up all my batteries to full than load tested them. The load test said they are good. I powered up my unit and hag all my maps and GPS. I am running the 4.9 update on my unit now. I also run a StayNCharge on my boat so every time I start the big motor my batteries are getting topped off and stay pretty much full all the time.
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So,
Now everything is working OK?
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No. I had my batteries all charged up with 14v going to the battery. I had my maps and gps everytime I powered up my unit. I did it about 7 or 8 times. Than all of a sudden they would not load.I tried a few times and also waited about 10 mins to see if it will load them but no luck.Once I get my new Y cable I'm hoping that will do it.
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Hmmmm. I just tried it again tonight. I powered up my unit and my maps and GPS came right up. Now my unit has been unplugged for 2 days now. Before I even tried to unplug and wait a few mins and plugged it back in and it didn't work. Seems like it just wants to work when it feels like it it. LOL Drives me nuts. My luck it wont work when I get on the water. What's this sound like it is doing?
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It sounds to me like you have a loose plug that is
making intermittent contact.
I've heard of people breaking off a toothpick
between the plug and the unit to keep it tight.
Anybody else have any ideas?
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bassburner15,
Try eliminating the AS-YC and plug the GPS Receiver directly into your 997 unit to see if you get different results or not.
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I just put a new AC YC cable on and powered it up and it worked.I'll have to play with it and see if it keeps working.I will also try what you said Greg.
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I have powered it up a bunch of times and it seems to be working.I disconnected the power from the unit a few times also and it seems to be working. I hope my problems are solved. My problem could have been from unplugging in every time I get home from the lake for the last 2 1/2 years and I'm thinking the cable just got worn out where the pins fit into.My unit has been unplugged about 1,000 times. LOL We will find out if this is why after going to the lake a few times and powering on and off to see what happends.
I want to thank Robert and everyone for helping me with this.It really means a lot to me. This is a great site and have learned quite a bit here lately! I will keep you all posted on this.
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Glad you got it fixed.Now you can spend hours perfecting your skills with the Unit. Good luck Gary