Topic: 598ciHDsi Contour Lines Tab

[Swann]

1 more question (I hope-LoL) & the rest must either be solved from observations on the water or by way of a Service Technician (& I really don't want 2do that on a unit built in Oct. 2012). When I go2 the H_B website 2look 4clues re: Why my unit will give me good info about Marinas, Tidal Information & even Charts/Graphs 4 Hi/Low Tide plotted against Hourly Fluctuation(s) in some cases & Yet NO Depth Profile/Contours - I can't help but wonder if this is another 1 of those X-Press Menu items or perhaps if I might need 2B physically present on that Lake or Body of water as pre-selected from the Chartplotter App 4the Navionics+ SD Card & after attempting to correlate some of that information from H_B.com it dawned on me that I don't have a "Contour Lines Tab" under the Chart Menu as per the following link:

https://www.humminbird.com/support/faqs/depthcontournavionics

Is this another 1 of those things that shows up in an Express Menu OR is it just that the 598ciDHsi simply does Not have 1 as per methods of "cost reduction" from the 798ciHDsi design in order 2make things more affordable 4the Laymen back in 2012? Thus far I've noticed far more than just a few Pre-Set Buttons, Ethernet Connection & 2Card Slots vs 1? Ok there's AS360SSI compatibility But if one is going 2spend $2k on 360deg Imaging alone, that person should've been considering an 899ciHDsi at the very least.
As per my past reading, there are many that used 2group this comparison as just "3 small differences" back in the day in order 2try 2justify Cost Savings But let it be known that there's quite a bit more than that.
Regardless, this "Contour Lines Tab" is Not readily visible under the Chart Menu Directory on a 598ciHDsi as it would be 4a 700 Series (which I think is the example H_B.com is using in the link above) & would this be another 1 of those options that only appears when the Transducer is Connected or something 2that effect?
Thanks, Sandro

[rnvinc]

Some Chart tab Menu options only show in the Menu if that specific map card offers that data  ...

I would guess your map card does not offer that data  ...

You might contact Navionics with this question  ...
https://www.navionics.com/usa/support/contact-us

Rickie

[Swann]

Garmin/Navionics is willing to do a Team Viewer Meeting for my prior query - quite impressive as far as I'm concerned.
Unfortunately I work Dayshift in a Stamping Plant so it's hard 2find the time, not 2mention the fact that I don't quite understand how this question is directly related 2the Navionics+ SD Card?
Would this also imply that if I tried 2 "plug-in" a Humminbird LakeMaster Card that the Menu Options would change that drastically & that my Menu Options would then look like that of the Humminbird Link Posted Previously?
I will attempt 2attach some pics of what the Chart List looks like on my 598 in comparison to the H_B link just 2B clear. I know exactly how 2do this on my 598 But Not how 2attach 2this Forum-Reply unfortunately so some Trial & Error might be warranted here? My apologies in advance. Sandro.

[rnvinc]

Chart Level Detail is a Navionics card feature not a LakeMaster card feature ...

Rickie

[Swann]

So are you saying that the Tab Options under the Chart Menu List will change based on the type of SD Card and hence why there is NO "Contour Lines" option showing up on my 598 and yet clearly shown on the H_B site example?
Not to mention that there are a few other Tab Options after "Offset Speed" that are Not shown on my 598 as well?

[rnvinc]

So are you saying that the Tab Options under the Chart Menu List will change based on the type of SD Card and hence why there is NO "Contour Lines" option showing up on my 598 and yet clearly shown on the H_B site example?
Not to mention that there are a few other Tab Options after "Offset Speed" that are Not shown on my 598 as well?

The Chart Tab selection Menu options do not change depending on the card inserted  ...

The Menu options are a compilation of options from both Navionics and LakeMaster in the same Chart tab  ... some options work with a Navionics card - some work with a LakeMaster card  ...

Shaded depth, Chart level detail, and maybe even Map Borders are options for a Navionics card  ... the rest are for a LakeMaster card  ...

Contour lines On/Off is a LakeMaster card feature  ...

Somewhere in the core model history (I think in HELIX software updates) HB added the “HB Chart” tab that separated the Menu options from the Chart tab specifically for Navionics or LakeMaster  ...

Rickie

[rnvinc]

Separate question - but related  ...

Is your “User Mode” under the Setup tab set to “Advanced”  ... ??

(“Normal” hides some Menu options)  ...

Rickie

[Swann]

Yes, of course? Although I haven't actually spent any time on the water with it - I have logged over 20+hours playing around with it in Simulator Mode 2get 2know the Menus and "some" hours in Normal Mode with Sonar & Demonstration Mode set to "off" just 2get an idea of what 2expect in my area of operation... which isn't much really seeing as its' internal Setup is geared 4the Continental US... Not 2get off Topic But I'm a bit "thick-skulled" in that sense & still having trouble digesting all that guff about Satellite Positioning & the like when it comes to ci & cXi Units b/c from the view point of a Satellite - Our Borders shouldn't seem much more than a Fence Line between Neighboring Houses when one considers the perspective of outer space... Regardless, I still don't quite grasp How or Why some Tab Menus Show Themselves as others Do Not based on what type of SD Card is inserted to the drive slot... Thus far, from what I can tell anyway, this 598 is going 2 be a bit of a challenge 2 learn based on that scenario alone... For example, the Tab called "LakeList" under the CHART Menu is 1 of those Tabs that will only "populate" if/when a Lakemaster SD Card is inserted into the DriveSlot - Correct?

[rnvinc]

Correct  ... the Lake List is read directly from the LakeMaster map card  ...

Rickie

[Swann]

Thanks, I think I get it now & begin 2wonder if a 798 would be a bit easier 2learn from when 1considers the differences between the 2 units & how some things on the 798 almost seem 2 B a little more "straight fwd" than the 598... Heres a question, is there much difference "IF Any" between a 798ci_SI and a 798ciHD_SI ?

[Swann]

Ok. No Need 2answer that question as I just found the answer right here on this very forum from way back in 2012 by non other than Mr.Rnvinc himself - LoL;) Cheers & Thanks. (Yet Again).
 
http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=4211.0

[rnvinc]

Somehow I missed your question  ...

But I’m glad you found the answer  ...

Rickie