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Looks like we have new software to try, hope it takes care of the issues we are experiencing with the last three releases and does not create new ones. If it does, Thank You Humminbird, bless your heart!


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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 03:55:46 PM »
Looks like we have new software to try, hope it takes care of the issues we are experiencing with the last three releases and does not create new ones. If it does, Thank You Humminbird, bless your heart!

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 04:51:47 PM »
i cant even find the 6.680

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 07:30:15 PM »
Checked my account. They are there and ready for download!!  Now if the boat was 163 miles closer I would be in business.  Hopefully someone will try them out before next weekend.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2013, 08:29:10 PM »
im going to stick the 6.490 and see what happens with 6.640

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 09:39:35 PM »
downloading 6.64 right now for my 1198.  this is against my better judgement, but here goes! I will only be able to view it in sim mode for now. I can't get on the water till next weekend. I'll keep yall posted with any news.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 10:01:17 PM »
I find nothing in the description about fixing the screwed up images in 6.610...

http://www.humminbird.com/faq.aspx?contentid=3710%20

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2013, 10:04:35 PM »
I just finished installing my 360 imaging and I downloaded the latest version (6.64) and installed it.  I haven't been able to read what this new version has fixed so I'm flying a little blind here.  I'm running the 360 view on the screen and I noticed the sweep line is really jumpy with no sonar returns visible at all.  As I'm writing this, the 1198 just restarted on it's own.  Now I have a steady sweep line and visible 360 sonar returns.  Wow.  I have a lot to learn about this 360. 

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2013, 10:05:58 PM »
sitting here watching this 360 make it's seeps in sim mode.  the returns don't look like 360 returns, instead they look like down imaging returns

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2013, 10:09:35 PM »
it just restarted again on its own.  not sure about this update...

Message on the screen... 360 source lost. Turn off?

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2013, 10:15:56 PM »
The 360 simulation mode sonar returns are in fact the exact same as the DI view returns.  I saved each view in the shortcut buttons and switched back and forth quickly to see if they matched.  There are no simulated 360 views visible as of now.  2D sonar looks ok.  no problems there yet.
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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2013, 10:21:28 PM »
While viewing the 360 screen, I get a message: "360 unit retracted, Deploy?"  then the screen switches back to the full nav. screen by itself.  Bugs...Bugs...where's my Raid?

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2013, 10:26:46 PM »
Moved the 360 range out to 125 feet.  now I have a 360 looking sonar return.  some of this stuff is likely my learning curve here.  need some others to confirm my findings.  Maybe Greg can help here.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2013, 10:29:22 PM »
I really like the zoom in the 360 view.  The sonwr continues to sweep while zoomed.  nice.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2013, 10:41:32 PM »
screenshot...

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2013, 12:06:05 AM »
RuffWood & others,

I just updated my 998c-SI with the latest version: 6.680 and made some test-recordings along-side the dock. The new version still has issues with degraded quality of the Side Imaging channels whenever the 83 kHz is in use (either in the 83 kHz or in the 83 kHz/200kHz modes)

...as described here:
http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=3890.msg23376#msg23376

The only way to get clean Sidescan sonar recordings, without a "bar-code" pattern of the data in the SI channels, is (still) to select the 200 kHz mode only, ...at least on the 998c-SI model. I hope they can fix this in upcoming releases.


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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2013, 11:18:13 AM »
 "2. Removes the user’s ability to write to a Navionics card."

Why? Doesn't this make SonarCharts and Freshest Data useless?

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2013, 04:46:43 PM »
Navionics does not want anyone writing on their cards, with the exception of their updates, record on the Navionics card will most likely cause it to fail.  HB is actually helping to protect your card.  All information is record on the other card.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2013, 07:44:59 AM »
RuffWood & others,

I just updated my 998c-SI with the latest version: 6.680 and made some test-recordings along-side the dock. The new version still has issues with degraded quality of the Side Imaging channels whenever the 83 kHz is in use (either in the 83 kHz or in the 83 kHz/200kHz modes)

...as described here:
http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.php?topic=3890.msg23376#msg23376

The only way to get clean Sidescan sonar recordings, without a "bar-code" pattern of the data in the SI channels, is (still) to select the 200 kHz mode only, ...at least on the 998c-SI model. I hope they can fix this in upcoming releases.


Tore


side imaging doesnt use 83/200, it uses 455/800

are you talking about 2d?

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2013, 02:53:49 PM »
HI TroyBoy30,

Yes, I realize that Side Imaging does not use the 83 or 200 kHz frequencies, but those DI-settings still affects what gets recorded in the SI Channels.
To record sharp SI data, you need to keep the sonar in the mode where it only records the 200 kHz data (...or the recorded SI data gets all "jagged", at least on my 998c-SI)

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2013, 04:59:01 PM »
I'm getting the bar code look on my DI also, this is with 6.61 and happens at the TM with i-link  and at the helm I thought it was RF noise lol thanks HB, we will get it fixed wont we ??



« Last Edit: May 13, 2013, 05:02:24 PM by short grub »

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2013, 07:19:38 PM »
If I am recalling correctly, the SI uses the 200Khz 2d for depth and also is one of the determining factors in ping rate.
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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2013, 07:20:18 AM »
HI TroyBoy30,

Yes, I realize that Side Imaging does not use the 83 or 200 kHz frequencies, but those DI-settings still affects what gets recorded in the SI Channels.
To record sharp SI data, you need to keep the sonar in the mode where it only records the 200 kHz data (...or the recorded SI data gets all "jagged", at least on my 998c-SI)

Tore

got ya.  i could care less about recordings

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 11:57:54 PM »
I'm getting the bar code look on my DI also, this is with 6.61 and happens at the TM with i-link  and at the helm I thought it was RF noise lol thanks HB, we will get it fixed wont we ??

Hi, whats your chart speed? I have to set my 1198 to 3 or higher or I get the exact
same garbage on my screen. Try settings of 3 or 4. On my 898 I can go down to 1
on chart speed with no issues.





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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2013, 12:43:37 PM »
thanks Doc that didn't seem to help and yesterday it started to flicker and anytime that I made any changes on the unit the bar code would go away but within 40 to 50 seconds it was back, the screen flicker was there even if everything else was off it happens at the helm and at the TM

I think its either a bad software issue or a bad unit I'm going to replace my locators stand alone battery when I get back to work ....... but for now its test this and test that lol

 I love this HB 1198c SI but if I (we) cant get these software updates and TM issues worked out it will be replaced with Lowrance. I was going to get a new 1158 DI for the TM but I'm tired of spending money on systems that wont or don't work together $9000 in fishing gear that wont work correctly is just wrong ........... heck HB still cant get software updates right

Now don't you guys jump in my tree because we know the averages of the HB software crew..... I still am a major fan of HB but I'm tired of the fight

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2013, 01:00:59 PM »
There is no doubt that the latest software releases have REALLY hurt Humminbird........Kind of a last straw for a lot of people.   

It's really a shame too since they came out with some really good innovations with the I-pilot link, 360, and new puck with heading sensor.
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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2013, 03:44:04 PM »
you would think hb would fix this quick. if i make to many more trips to the lake to find out my software is messed up,[gas price] i will be looking at another brand. if the update is bad why is it there to download? i went back to 6.490 hope it still works

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2013, 07:30:30 AM »
good luck with the other brand.  they have there own issues.  losing bottom, point 1 not working

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2013, 09:39:47 AM »
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I love this HB 1198c SI but if I (we) cant get these software updates and TM issues worked out it will be replaced with Lowrance.
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if i make to many more trips to the lake to find out my software is messed up,[gas price] i will be looking at another brand.
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It's really a shame too since they came out with some really good innovations with the I-pilot link, 360, and new puck with heading sensor.

It has to be extremely difficult for Humminbird to keep coming out with new innovations, and to incorporate those into their existing hardware and software.  I think the software updates will get better, once things stabilize (no new options/accessories for at least a year).
I may not update the software on my 1197 again.  I don't trust any of the new software updates.  There are just too many changes going on in the software right now.

For those of you that are thinking of going over to Lowrance, remember this:
Humminbird was the first to offer side-imaging for recreational fishing sonars.
Humminbird was the first to offer 360 degree imaging for recreational fishing sonars.
The fact is, that Humminbird IS THE ONLY ONE coming out with these new, great ideas.
Unfortunately (as we have seen), it takes a while to work the bugs out.

If you go over to Lowrance, will you complain to them that they don't offer 360
degree imaging like Humminbird does?  Humminbird probably has an air tight patent
on the 360, so it might be quite a few years before Lowrance can copy it.

My advise, is that if your unit is working Ok, then don't update unless you absolutely have
to (because you added a new option/accessory).
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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2013, 01:34:31 PM »
I'm getting the bar code look on my DI also, this is with 6.61 and happens at the TM with i-link  and at the helm I thought it was RF noise lol thanks HB, we will get it fixed wont we ??

On my 998, this bar-code on DI is caused by having DI Enhance Sharpness set.  HB Support knows.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2013, 05:37:14 PM »
ITGeek I'm all for new ,bigger, better first and so on, I wont ever own the 360 unit. As for all of this first newer bigger that is great if it works, as for software that is always causing problems I understand there will be bugs, but we /they need to do a lot more testing, and if they cant get just a few items to work together then why would they just dump more options on a system that is always having problems, lets be real here since the I-pilotlink hit the ground and the 360 they have had nothing but problems with the software updates, what do they have a third party working on these updates or maybe that's what they need is some real code /program writers I don't have that answer


as for we/ us that might switch over to lowrance all I can say is if there is a problem with their products I will do the same which is voice my concerns about things that don't work correctly

We pay top dollar for items that don't work as intended, I'm not one to sit back and say oh they might get it right in a year or so if they don't add anymore options to their systems ............. as I've stated in the past I'm one of HB's biggest fans, I love their locators, and like I said I wont own a 360 unit, their to high priced and they don't fit my style of fishing at this time

I will go back to the 6.4 software so I can tell what my $3000 1198c SI is showing on the screen even though that will make my $800 I-pilotlink system just and high dollar I-pilot with a fancy remote

As I've said I'm not the only one who has had problems with my HB products and I'm really PI$$ED OFF about it, I get to fish a couple weekends a month and for these products not to work as intended it causes a lot of bad feelings none of which I want or need

Don't say I'm spoiled as I'm 53 years young and life is full of set-backs and one of those set-backs should not be fishing

again I love my HOI products I just want them to work correctly

thank you and all the others here that try to help me see the light and the prospects for a better day to come I thank you all

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 07:41:10 AM »
youre going to be complaining a lot.  all electronics and software have issues.  cell phones are one of the worst.  nothing in this day and age is going to work 100%.  all companies are guilty of pushing out products before they are ready.  it's now the nature of the beast since the industry is moving so fast

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2013, 07:49:04 AM »
I know it's a bad time for lots of users.
I have faith that Humminbird will eventually work out all
the problems.
As an end-user, I have to trust the people that made the
product.

I myself, would eventually like to upgrade to an 1198, and get the
360, but like everybody else, I want them to work correctly.

The good news is that these complaints aren't going unnoticed.
Humminbird is going to have to step up and get a handle on these
updates if they want to stay in business.  We know that, and
they know that.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2013, 10:06:52 PM »
youre going to be complaining a lot.  all electronics and software have issues.  cell phones are one of the worst.  nothing in this day and age is going to work 100%.  all companies are guilty of pushing out products before they are ready.  it's now the nature of the beast since the industry is moving so fast

No, not all electronics and software have issues.  Like I've said in a previous thread, if I released code like this to my production environment I'd probably be fired...   There's no excuse for this at all...  You're selling units based upon certain 'features', to not have these 'features' working properly before it's released to the public is a joke.   Either their programming team is out to lunch of their QC/QA is completely non existent.   

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2013, 06:23:13 PM »
IMHO software glitches are the exception, not the norm.  I work in the graphics industry and Mac/Apple, that I use every day to make a living seem to have found the key to not letting subpar, or glitchy software out the door.  Never had a problem with my iPhone's, and or the mac's at work, for the last 12 years (on the computers) at least.
I won't abandon ship anytime soon.  However i hope they are really paying attention!

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2013, 06:54:28 AM »
I am running a 1198 C SI with 360 imaging and with the exception of the unit re-booting at random times, everything works well.  The re-boot issue however is a major issue for me and was the main reason I opted to go with another brand of radar.  For safety reasons, I simply could not risk having my radar unit re-boot in the midst of navigating around obstacles in the fog.  I have heard all the fixes for the re-boot issue and have tried them all.  I keep the system software updated.  Hopefully, HB will one day come up with a fix for the re-boot - but I doubt it will be via a software update.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2013, 01:12:15 PM »
I had a reboot issues with my 1198c from day one.   Happened frequently when navigating through menuss.   After basically following everything Humminbird said, rewiring my entire boat, and then sending the unt in only to have it sent back doing the same thing still it was finally replaced with a brand new unit and the problem never has happened again.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2013, 08:29:16 AM »
No, not all electronics and software have issues.  Like I've said in a previous thread, if I released code like this to my production environment I'd probably be fired...   There's no excuse for this at all...  You're selling units based upon certain 'features', to not have these 'features' working properly before it's released to the public is a joke.   Either their programming team is out to lunch of their QC/QA is completely non existent.   
yes they do.  find me a pc, cell phone, computer program, car system, or anything for that matter that does not have issues.  we get bux fix updates constantly in the IT world.  why would we get bug fixes when you say issues dont exist?

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2013, 08:49:39 AM »
Danco,
Did you try sending your unit in to Humminbird.
It seems to me that maybe you jumped ship too soon.
Also, no other brand has the 360 and probably
won't have it for a long while.

These sonars are extremely complicated.
They can have gps, radar, sonar (side-imaging, down-imaging, 2-d, 360), weather forecast, and baromeric pressure readings, all working at the same time.
Can anyone think of any other recreational device that is more complicated?

The reason Humminbird is having so many issues now, is because
they are incorporating new features (360 and ipilot link) to the existing systems.
It will eventually stabilize.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2013, 09:25:37 AM »
ITGeek,

Humminbird has not offered for me to send my unit back to them as of yet.  However, it has been recommended that I check all connections, etc etc.. which has been done.  My total investment with HB including the 360, 1198, install etc etc was around 6k or so.  I can appreciate the issues with new technology - but re-booting is not about technology - that issue is likely a workmanship issue.  Just my opinion.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2013, 09:46:45 AM »
They did the same with me when mine was rebooting.  I spent a lot of hours and money rewiring my boat, troubleshooting on the water, running new wires  directly to battery, new fuses etc.  my boat was brand new with all new wiring to begin with and the 1198c did the reboot from day one.  I spent $40 to ship the unit back for testing and they sent it back saying they replaced some connection but it still did the same thing.  Finally I sent it back a second time and demanded the unit be replaced with a new one and it was and the problem was finally solved.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2013, 10:09:12 AM »
They should just split their code and deal with it that way.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2013, 10:36:28 AM »
For anyone who has a unit still under warranty and has to
to send it in to Humminbird:
Ask them to send you a postage-paid label, so it won't cost you anything
for shipping.
They don't advertise this option, but it is available if you ask.

Danco,
You may have a faulty/sensitive power button.
I had a problem with my power button sticking, and it was some debris
in it.  I used a plastic toothpick to fish it out.
If I were you, and your unit is still under warranty, I'd call Humminbird and
tell them that you have tried everything they have suggested, and it still won't work.
Ask if you can send the unit to them for testing/replacement.
Remember to back up your waypoint(s) before sending your unit in.

You have to be pro-active and ASK THEM what should you do
next.  There's only so many things you can try on your own until the experts
need to look at the unit.  Some people get discouraged and start to bad-mouth
Humminbird.   But if you stay deligent, you can be a happy camper in the end.
Remember, Humminbird wants happy customers, because they want you to
buy from them again.
Be calm, call customer service and nicely explain the situation to them.
They are just people like you and me, doing a job.  They are not out to GET any
of us.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2013, 11:27:49 AM »
The reasoning behind having anyone with a power related problem to check their wiring is due to the many calls, e-mail messages and board posts that are all caused by faulty or insufficient wiring.  If you have checked all of these things and even tried another similar sized unit (have to use a unit of the same series so it will have the same power needs) on your boat yet it is only your unit that has the problem: see if you can figure out what triggers the re-booting issue.  It could be the use of a memory or mapping card, shock (hitting a wave), vibration, the hot or cold weather.  This will help the Techs troubleshoot the problem when it is sent into the Service Center and will help us get the problem solved.
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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2013, 11:39:25 AM »
Thanks Greg,

The re-boot issue on my 1198 is random.  The unit is still under warranty - purchased in February 2013.  The unit was installed by a professional dealer - not self installed.  Voltage to the unit has never been less than 12.5 volts.  All the wiring checks out and is in accordance with specifications.  Unit was installed by Bass Pro Shop in Denham Springs, La.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2013, 12:26:10 PM »
“All the wiring checks out and is in accordance with specifications.“
What specifications would those be?  14AWG multi-strand copper wire run all the way back to the battery using soldered and sealed connections with an in-line fuse holder and 3Amp fuse?
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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2013, 12:30:52 PM »
The ones Humminbird gave Bass Pro when I brought the boat back in after the first series of re-boots.  But, I will look personally after work today to check what is onboard.  Sorry, but I presume that if a qualified dealer / installer handles the installation - then it is in accordance with specs - especially if they tell me it is.  Now I know that I have to confirm/audit that.  Will do.  No problem.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2013, 01:22:59 PM »
Danco,
I wouldn't completely trust any installer.
I used to work in an automobile dealership.
People trust dealers to do the best work.
You would not believe the kind of things that I've seen.
Some acts were actually criminal.

You may just have a defective unit that needs replacing
like Sskafar.  It happens with all electronics.

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Re: Humminbird Software Update 6.640 and 6.680 for Ethernet Models
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2013, 04:32:55 PM »
I hear you on that ITG.  I worked at a car stereo shop back in the early 80’s and had to clean up the work of some other “professional installers”.

Danco, those are my specs but than I tend to go overboard on some things but its just so I don’t have to go back and do them again later.  Depending on the total distance the wire has to travel you may not need a 14 gauge wire.  I state that as it will work almost 100% in all freshwater boat installs, but I would never go smaller than 16 gauge.  Just don’t want you to send your unit in, have no problem found and you get it back with the same problem.
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