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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #150 on: May 16, 2014, 02:52:37 PM »
Which unit did you try it with Ben?
We need screen shots man!
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #151 on: May 16, 2014, 03:22:40 PM »
Which unit did you try it with Ben?
We need screen shots man!

I tried it on my 998 SI HD.  I could also try it on 788 HD and 958 HD.  I will try posting screenshots tomorrow morning.

Ben

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #152 on: May 16, 2014, 03:58:06 PM »
Cool, thanks Ben!
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #153 on: May 16, 2014, 06:13:56 PM »
Which unit did you try it with Ben?
We need screen shots man!


Here you go !

It does work on both my 958 HD and 998 HD but not on my 788 CXI HD (Keep loading the charts)





and on my 958 HD



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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #154 on: May 16, 2014, 06:32:42 PM »
Does anyone know if this works on the older 798 ci si.   The non hd model?

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #155 on: May 17, 2014, 05:42:49 AM »
Tried again this morning with my 788 CXI HD and it worked !



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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #156 on: May 19, 2014, 06:06:27 PM »
Thank you so much for posting this information.  I was able to get the map I was making up and loaded on my 1198.  Very happy!

It didn't come without frustration. I couldn't create my map without a constant error asking me to select the units, but no "ok" button to hit. I have to run the program as an administrator. I am using Windows 7, 64 bit for others who may encounter this.

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #157 on: May 20, 2014, 08:09:14 AM »
Cool stuff.....   ;D

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #158 on: May 20, 2014, 01:23:07 PM »
Here is the lake that was mapped on Sunday.  Contours with the bottom hardness overlay.

Cory, by chance did you boat faster across the deep portion of the lake?  I have noticed my bottom hardness overlay, is affected by how fast I operate my boat.  For example, when boating from the ramp to a fishing spot, it doesn't show bottom hardness accurately.

Just curious, thanks!

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #159 on: May 20, 2014, 02:42:58 PM »
CamoHunter,

Yes I have noticed this as well.  I have Mapped another larger lake in my area and decided to test how it reads at different speeds.  If I map at a higher speed I definitely get a weaker bottom hardness reading of the bottom, which makes sense.  When I map at a higher speed, which is usually around 22-25 mph I get different readings then when I map at 6-7mph.  In the Manual it talks about mapping for fishing or mapping for making a lake map (Not in those words).  I decided that I would map the part of the lake I would normally not fish at a higher speed so I at least get the depth changes and could use the data to fill in the rest of the lake.  As I was doing that I noticed that the Bottom Hardness data was different then if I was traveling at a lower rate of speed. 

I have also been messing around with the Live Mapping Feature which can show you in Real Time what the Bottom Hardness is as well as the Depth Contours.  I find it much easier to create a complete map if I know where the spots I am missing are in Real Time.  For Bottom Hardness if the water is clear I can see what the bottom looks like and compare that to what shade of hardness is showing on AutoChart.  Still a lot to learn about this program!!

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #160 on: May 26, 2014, 02:56:25 AM »
To AutoChart Pro users

Is it possible to load the old data (txt or csv) to AutoCharts?

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #161 on: May 26, 2014, 10:37:24 AM »
Not sure what data you're talking about.  I'm guessing you have a .txt(text file) or .csv(comma separated values) with Lat, Long, & Depth.  You should be able to take that data, and convert it to a .ht(Humminbird Track) file. You may have to use separate software to accomplish that, such as GPS Babel. 
But once it is in .ht format, then YES, you can import that data into AutoCharts.  I've been able to import saved Humminbird tracks from fishing trips taken over three years ago just fine.

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #162 on: May 26, 2014, 12:06:48 PM »
Thank you. I have a lot of data collected with Lowrance for a few years, most of them are saved as txt or similar format. So, now I need to redo my charts for new Humminbird system. As, I understood you - the only format to import data into AutoChart is Humminbird tracks, correct? 

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #163 on: May 26, 2014, 12:25:59 PM »
Correct.  It can only import Humminbird tracks, Humminbird sonar recordings, and old Dr. Depth files. 

If you can get your depth data into one of those formats, you should be able to import it with no problems. Good luck!

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #164 on: May 27, 2014, 12:17:02 AM »
Does Anybody know if autochart is compatible with a 997 unit? i believe its version 6.3

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #165 on: May 27, 2014, 09:20:32 AM »
Don't know if they will push out an update for that unit to work with Autocharts or not.  However, there is a work around.

Here are the instructions, direct from Humminbird.  Others have tried it, and it works.
 
http://www.humminbird.com/Category/Support/FAQ/AutoChartUseW_O_SoftwareUpdate/

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #166 on: May 27, 2014, 10:33:15 AM »
Are there any restrictions regarding the location we can use AutoChart Pro? Is it world-wide applicable?
I have just tried to order it from Cabelas to be shipped to Russia and was told that it "this product cannot ship to International addresses".

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #167 on: May 27, 2014, 12:51:11 PM »
I don't think there are restrictions, but they have different regions.  For example, the one all of us use in the USA & Canada, just the North America copy of Autocharts.  I believe they have a Europe region also, but not sure if they have any regions beyond that or not.  I'd send a message to their customer service to see if they can help you in that regard.

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #168 on: May 28, 2014, 08:08:49 AM »
The AutoChart/AutoChart Pro programs will work anywhere but you will need the correct regional ZeroLine map card to get the maps in your unit.  I know that this is being split up into regions as CamoHunter stated but do not know if there will be a Russian version (or it may be a part of another region) or not.  It has not been announced yet if there is.
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #169 on: May 28, 2014, 07:26:29 PM »
Is anybody else having problems with the gps tracks showing up in the wrong place....maybe by 250 yards, mine starts in the lake and goes way up on shore. Thoughts?

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #170 on: May 28, 2014, 10:15:23 PM »
I had the same issue. I stopped doing recordings waiting on the new 7.080 update to come out which was released yesterday so I could see what it actually looks like on my 898. (i have not loaded the update yet). i live on a lake and when i created a map it was half way up in my yard. there is a map offset on my unit which i have never used but assume it will move the shore line in different directions. i am curious to see  if it will fix it if the contour line are on the bank on the unit. I have not been able to play with auto chart much due to work getting in the way. i played with creating a shore line with google earth but it was time consuming. If all else fails i will outline the shore when i get time. I know there was a fix to play with it before the update but I figured I would wait. Have you tried it on the unit?
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #171 on: May 29, 2014, 01:26:28 AM »
I havent yet, i hope to this weekend. I happened to have some files laying around on the computer. I dont think my 997 will be updated so ill have to play around with the files to make it work. Hopefully the 858 will be updated. Keep me posted if you figure anything out.

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #172 on: May 30, 2014, 08:34:19 AM »
The AutoChart/AutoChart Pro programs will work anywhere but you will need the correct regional ZeroLine map card to get the maps in your unit.  I know that this is being split up into regions as CamoHunter stated but do not know if there will be a Russian version (or it may be a part of another region) or not.  It has not been announced yet if there is.


"Thank you for contacting Humminbird. We appreciate your support of our products.
 Right now the Autochart program is only available to work in the United States."
That is what customer service replied :/

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #173 on: May 31, 2014, 03:21:44 AM »
http://www.rusfishing.ru/forum/showpost.php?p=4204467&postcount=47
One guy from Ukraine has bought AutoChart Pro but failed to transfer the map to the SD Card.
"The new area did not fit inside the current custom map." 

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #174 on: June 01, 2014, 04:51:20 PM »
Has anyone else run across this yet?

http://www.humminbird.com/uploadedFiles/Content/Category/Support/FAQ/AutoChart_fix.pdf

It appears to provide a way to use maps that were created with Autochart on Humminbird Sonar devices that haven't been updated with Autochart support yet.


I have used this to show the maps on my 1198, as well as my 998. Works as it should but I expected the 7.090 updates to make this unnecessary as they state they they added support for Autochart.  So I will use this work around until an update works.

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #175 on: June 01, 2014, 07:33:00 PM »
I have used this to show the maps on my 1198, as well as my 998. Works as it should but I expected the 7.090 updates to make this unnecessary as they state they they added support for Autochart.  So I will use this work around until an update works.

You got it to work on the unit?...i cant seem to get mine to work...
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #176 on: June 01, 2014, 08:17:51 PM »
If you understand the file structure on the sd card. It is as simple as renaming the LKmaster folder to ZeroLkmaster   I use this to make it obvious that this is the original folder. Then copy and paste the LKmaster folder from the AC folder on the sd card,  into the root of the card next to the renamed ZeroLKmaster. As long as the unit is up todate it will read from the new folder.

Make sure you keep the Zeromaster folder intact.  You will need to get rid of the new LKmaster folder and change the name back to add to your maps.   Renaming and copy paste again to see the additions.

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #177 on: June 01, 2014, 08:33:14 PM »
What were the original folders on the autochart sd card? Right now i have LkMaster, Record, and 01LkMaster (the original) my units havent been updated for ac support yet (997si and 858hd xd)

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #178 on: June 01, 2014, 09:21:34 PM »
Mine had 2   
                    1: Lkmaster this is the zero lines folder
                    2: AC this is the Auto Charts folder in this is another LKmaster folder, within this is stored the maps you create

The records is the folder you saved the records off of the humminbird  ( I have not been able to do anything with these other than View them in the software)
Now if you save tracks you will get another folder MATRIX you use these to make the 2D  lake maps with.


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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #179 on: June 02, 2014, 10:59:05 PM »
ok I made the recordings I put them into autochart pro and it made a sweet map now I need to know why when I put the chip into my humminbird that I don't see the map that I just made ???
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #180 on: June 03, 2014, 09:21:52 AM »
prosupermag,
What unit are you using and what software version is it running?
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #181 on: June 03, 2014, 10:21:30 AM »
check settings on your unit you have to  slect proper card left or right,then set background as AC , show contours and shaded colors  in charts menu
 for it to dispaly like on PC
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #182 on: June 03, 2014, 11:47:02 AM »
Hate to hear that your hard drive crashed. That's a real bummer. That has happened to me a few times in the past.  Hope you didn't loose too much data.

I'm waiting patiently for the Auto Chart Pro version to be released. I think that will give me something fun to do. I fish a small Strip Pit that's run the the Indiana DNR Fish and Wildlife Agency.  They did a survey of my fishing lake which is only about 190 acres in size.  So I figure that I can do a much better job at surveying this water than the girl who did the State's Initial Survey. She miss a lot of the water and just used her computer to INTERPOLATE the results into a inaccurate Map of the topography of the lakes bottom.  Humminbird or Johnson Controls must have purchased that map data for the State as they came out with a map of the lake with 1 ft contour intervals that obviously was interpolated from the basic data. Since most of the lake bottom was not really surveyed there is a lot of computer fudging of the real data to make it fit. However there are parts of the lake that need to be surveyed to make an more accurate map. Every square foot of some area need to be sampled to find the variations and rocks on the bottom of this former mined area that's now filled up with water.

So I plan on buying the Autochart Pro version and filling in the holes to make the map more accurate. I like to troll crank baits along the drop off and I need more accurate data for where the drop off actually are not where they are suppose to be. My crank baits are expensive and I don't like losing them in shallow water that only 5 ft deep where the Humminbird Map shows that I'm in 25 ft of water.  But that 25 ft deep water is 50 ft over to the East of where I'm trolling my crank bait.   When I'm fishing I like to try to huge the bottom part of the drop off or just a few feet off the drop in what the In-Fishermen People called "confined open water". That's where the larger crappie like to hang out in the summer moths.  That area is in the 18 ft to 25 ft depth right above the thermocline.  And if you can find an area where the drop off intersect the thermocline you will find the bass too. They will be in the area of the bottom that right above the thermocline which tends to runs at right about 26 to 27 ft down from the surface.


Look what I got from Little Falls, MN. today:




Now I just need the time to install it on my computer at home... maybe this weekend.

Anyone have any Sonar Recordings or Tracks that they would like converted to a partial lake map?  I lost all of mine when my external hard drive crashed.

Regards,

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #183 on: June 03, 2014, 12:36:33 PM »
I have an 898 c si.   That i just updated to 7.??? Something on sunday
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #184 on: June 03, 2014, 12:42:33 PM »
Moose,
The AutoChart and AutoChart Pro programs have been released for about a couple of months now.  I bought mine right after they released it.  You’ve been missing some valuable playtime!
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #185 on: June 03, 2014, 02:29:44 PM »
Yes I have indeed.  Thanks for the response. I've been very busy with a new Windows 8.1 Notebook Gaming Computer and a new AR15 Rifle.  So my attention to fishing has been unfocused recently.

I looked for a dealer and so far Gander Mountain and Dick's Sporting Goods Store in Evansville, IN are the two nearest Dealers. I go to Gander Mountain at least once or twice a week but have been just barely looking at the Fishing Department Stuff so I must have missed the Auto Chart Pro thing.  Gander caters more to Lawrence that Humminbird. I'm thinking that Lawrence's marketing department is paying Gander more to display their wares than Johnson Controls does.  For example they show the latest and biggest Lawrence Depth Finder units while only displaying some of the less Humminbird Units.  I noticed the same thing at another store recently.  The Buck and Jakes Store had a large display for the Lawrence Stuff and nothing for Humminbird.

But then again Humminbird sales are mostly though word of mouth. Customer enjoyment and loyalty sells more product that huge displays in the stores.

I'll have to check the bank account to see if I have any more money left to buy the Auto Chart Pro thing if and when Gander Mountain gets them in stock here at their store.  If they are there now I must have missed them on the Humminbird Display area.

Looking forward to getting back into fishing again as the coyote hunting season is over. 

My mom had a minor stroke the other day and spent a night and two days in the hospital for observation. She was really lucky as she got to get all the tests that I wanted her to get as she was having headaces recently and had been admitted to the Hosptial several times over the last two years. Now I know she still has a brain. LOL  They did a CAT Scan on her head and an MRI too. She was issued a clean bill of health.  She got up one day and made the bed and then suddenly her left arm stopped working. But by the time the ambulance got her to the hospital and she was in the ER her left arm started working again. Not sure what happened now. But she is back home and just a little scare to do any thing now. So the last two years I've sent a lot of my free time taking her to the Doctor's office and the Hospital. She broke her left hip back in Jan 2012 and it's been going down hill ever since. But the day before she had her stroke she was outside in the back yard ( she has a full acre of ground) and was cutting the grass with a self propelled push mower.  She is hard to keep down.  She will be 89 in August.

Moose,
The AutoChart and AutoChart Pro programs have been released for about a couple of months now.  I bought mine right after they released it.  You’ve been missing some valuable playtime!
Regards,

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #186 on: June 03, 2014, 03:10:47 PM »
While I'm thinking about it (because I have repeatedly forgotten about it):
If any of you have not registered your AutoChart purchase yet on the Humminbird web site, you should be able to do so now but there is a bit of a twist: instead of the serial number you enter the activation code to register it with.  The serial number from these would not work in our registration system.

Greg Where is the activation code. I just received my ACpro and i dont see that code , just a Serial number???
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #187 on: June 03, 2014, 03:50:22 PM »
look on the  outside of the paper sleve that the cd came in
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #188 on: June 03, 2014, 05:04:47 PM »
look on the  outside of the paper sleve that the cd came in
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Its not there, plain white envelope.  :(
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #189 on: June 03, 2014, 08:59:11 PM »
with the settings that is in the humminbird its self?   if so where are these settings in the menu ?
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #190 on: June 03, 2014, 09:54:42 PM »
I found those settings and I am very happy to say that I now have my first map ready to go it looks sweet
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #191 on: June 04, 2014, 12:21:53 AM »
prosupmag
great........ have u tried to set background as Ac then set overlay to Si map??
to display si mosaic on hb unit?
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #192 on: June 04, 2014, 11:25:22 AM »
Its not there, plain white envelope.  :(

Its the sleeve that the CD came in TTF.  If there was no white sleeve for the CD then you had best call the Humminbird Customer Resource folks then.  You will need the code to both activate the software on your computer and to register it.
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #193 on: June 04, 2014, 11:42:43 AM »
Greg Thanks They are working on it.
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #194 on: June 04, 2014, 04:41:58 PM »
Dave I have not tried that yet but I will have to try to check that out tonight
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #195 on: June 04, 2014, 09:01:05 PM »
Just curious if this is limited to just lakes.  Will I be able to map ledges and reefs in the Gulf of Mexico and inshore areas.  We have some nice areas I plan on mapping in the 5-40ft depth range.

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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #196 on: June 05, 2014, 08:34:44 AM »
Yes it will jbrady.  The mapping capabilities are not limited to only inland lakes and ponds.  Rivers, the Great lakes and saltwater bodies of water can be mapped as well.
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #197 on: June 06, 2014, 11:13:49 AM »
Those of you that have made maps, Can you make a contour map from a sonar recording only. or is it necessary to have both track and sonar data?
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #198 on: June 06, 2014, 04:05:26 PM »
yes u can get a map from just a recording :)
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Re: LakeMaster "AutoChart"
« Reply #199 on: June 09, 2014, 02:55:04 PM »
You should be able to make a map from either a sonar recording or a trackplot.  From the operations manual (page 23):

2 | Record Survey Data
You can use the track log or sonar recording to create your customized AutoChart maps. You only have to use one method to record data, and it is important to select the best method and confirm it is set up correctly.

Track Logs record GPS data and depth data. Track Logs will result in smaller files than sonar recordings. Track logs do not include bottom hardness data or sonar data, which are required for Bottom Hardness and Mosaic features.

Sonar Recordings record GPS, sonar data, and bottomhardness data. Sonar recordings will result in larger files than track logs. Use Sonar Recording if you have AutoChart PRO and plan to use bottom hardness or SI Mosaic.
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